Mitsubishi unbelievable
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some says get the GSR the tranny cause it is better if you want to mod your car but i think it's the same more GSR tranny is broken i think than MR. or maybe because the gsr is pushing more power that's why it broke more trannies but some them are just stock. so gsr tranny is not bullet proff as others say.
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It is unfortunate that this is happening and I hope you get it resolved soon. However, people are throwing around the lemon law as if it is a magic wand fix if you ever have a problem with your car. The laws differ from state to state, but I'm pretty sure none of them say a car has to be perfect and never an inconvenience or else you get a brand new one. Car companies, and yes even Mitsubishi, get to have a chance to make somethign right before they have to buy a car back. How many chances they get and what they are permitted to pay to buy your car back are what varies.
Last edited by GPTourer; May 23, 2009 at 09:36 AM.
All these CLUTCH related problems have nothing to do with the transmissions being inferior or superior to the MR dual clutch transmissions. The problems with the X clutch usually ends up being related to the fact that the rear main seal ****s the bed prematurely and causes oil to leak into the bell housing.
I haven't seen anything that would insinuate either MR or GSR transmission being weak. The only downside of the DCT is the fact that it's engineered for a certain TQ rating.
I haven't seen anything that would insinuate either MR or GSR transmission being weak. The only downside of the DCT is the fact that it's engineered for a certain TQ rating.
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It is unfortunate that this is happening and I hope you get it resolved soon. However, people are throwing around the lemon law as if it is a magic wand fix if you ever have a problem with your car. The laws differ from state to state, but I'm pretty sure none of them say a car has to be perfect and never an inconvenience or else you get a brand new one. Car companies, and yes even Mitsubishi, get to have a chance to make somethign right before they have to buy a car back. How many chances they get and what they are permitted to pay to buy your car back are what varies.
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very true, its not like your avatar. the "lemon laws" are hard to get going. takes a lot of work and time to establish your car as a lemon. obviously i would be going to the manager and asking for something to be done now to resolve this. weather that be going above the dealer, trading the car and the dealer mess with the car from here out or something. i mean does this kind of thing stay with the car? im sure its not gona be completely the same. im sorry that this is happened but its the same with every manufactur.
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wow, talk about a buzz kill. you get her for 3000 miles then it sits til they can finally send you a part that is machined correctly. I hate to say it, but if it was an american car it would be up and running by now. Unfortunately we all have to put up with crap to have the cars we love.
You know its funny you mention American cars. The stock gearbox, stock clutch on my 581rwhp Viper hasnt failed me once. Not to mention my 160,000 mile 2002 Chevy Astro van. No leaks, nothing..
wm
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he isnt comparing the viper to the evo, he was comparing the engineering. I'm not saying one is better than the other. but he makes a very good arguement. Hell i've had 2 valves replaced on my car and it's still 100% stock. I've also had the ECU wiring harness replaced for faulty wiring. Would i consider my car a lemon, no. It's the first year of a new car design, I expect problems. Some people are getting more serious ones than others, but i'm confident that mitsubishi will fix them. These cars have been around far too long for them to just give up on them. THAT would be a sad day.
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he isnt comparing the viper to the evo, he was comparing the engineering. I'm not saying one is better than the other. but he makes a very good arguement. Hell i've had 2 valves replaced on my car and it's still 100% stock. I've also had the ECU wiring harness replaced for faulty wiring. Would i consider my car a lemon, no. It's the first year of a new car design, I expect problems. Some people are getting more serious ones than others, but i'm confident that mitsubishi will fix them. These cars have been around far too long for them to just give up on them. THAT would be a sad day.
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Some states, like mine have binding arbitration agreements that can avoid jury trials, but you are right a lot of times the companies cave in, but not necessarily.
You have to get the same issue several times and record it for it to be a lemon, I had a friend that had a regular mini and he wanted the mini S.... He would trigger the same code every day and take it to the bmw dealer... He did this for 12 days over a months period and woot woot they considered it a lemon and gave him a trade-up to a mini S.... just a thought
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Let me start by saying that I have owned several Japanese cars in the past. From my souped up Honda Prelude V-tec back in my ricer days many years ago. To Acura and Lexus. All of these cars never gave me any hiccups..
Ok now to my point. My Mitsubishi service manager calls me yesturday and tells me that my new transmission input shaft arrived. Unfortently the new shaft is also defective. Heres where you can see my story from the beginning.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...put-shaft.html
So I went over there to take a look at that input shaft. To my amazement, the shaft wasnt machined right ,where the input shaft seal rides on. Even the original one looked better. But both were defective. What is up with that? Its hard to believe this is coming from a Japanese car. A part made in Japan..
To top things off. My main bearing seal leaking from the very beginning. Down to this. My whole tranny is in pieces right now. On a brand new car with only 3000 miles.. What an utter dissapointment..
wm
Ok now to my point. My Mitsubishi service manager calls me yesturday and tells me that my new transmission input shaft arrived. Unfortently the new shaft is also defective. Heres where you can see my story from the beginning.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...put-shaft.html
So I went over there to take a look at that input shaft. To my amazement, the shaft wasnt machined right ,where the input shaft seal rides on. Even the original one looked better. But both were defective. What is up with that? Its hard to believe this is coming from a Japanese car. A part made in Japan..
To top things off. My main bearing seal leaking from the very beginning. Down to this. My whole tranny is in pieces right now. On a brand new car with only 3000 miles.. What an utter dissapointment..wm
Your Mitsu dealer is not going to fix the car its going to keep on having problems over and over due to a crappy clutch install. The mitsu techs know this they just don't give a fack.