Totally false. While Chrysler/Mitsubishi/Hyundai all share the same block design there are differences in how they are reinforced and manufactured. The 2.0L block in the genesis is not the same nor are the heads and the turbocharger is much smaller as well. It's an open deck block so it's limited in how much power can be made compared to the much more robust semi-closed deck of the 4B11. There were comparison pics of the blocks posted and you can see that they are of similar design but the 4B11 looks much beefier.

 

Does AMS even have a turbo kit for sale yet? I would think this HKS kit works really well. The Garrett option seems best bang for buck once some tuners work out the problems.

 

AMS will have a turbo kit soon for the X, as for now I see nothing on their website about a full turbo kit.

 

AMS is working on a GT35R kit as we speak.

 

guys i am not trying to start the **** fight over AMS and HKS

however I would buy this kit as I know how **** the Japs get.

seen it done been there, and yeah ....


funny how you see more people with HKS parts than say another company.

well this side of the world

and I get all the Jap EVO mags, never see AMS in their? or Buschur or FP

 

HKS uses Garrett CHRAs, so center housing and wheels. HKS casts their own compressor and turbine housings.

Last I checked, Garrett/Honeywell Turbo owns over 50% of the turbocharger market with Borg warner owning roughly 25%. The rest is split between MHI, IHI, Holset, etc. I think Garrett owns like 75% of the diesel market as that was their focus at the end of the 90s. They're just getting back into gasoline with turbos on the BMW 4.4L V8 used in the 750i and X6, and Ford Ecoboost.

And I never had a problem with my Garrett T25 on my Nissan.

Anyways, back on topic. Like I said before, I don't like the fact that the HKS kit eliminates the benefits of the twin scroll design by using a regular turbine housing.

 

Bias?

 

This. It's like saying "I never see Top Gear reviewing American cars, so that must mean they suck". Well they're brits so it's natural for them to favor them. Not hard to figure out.

 

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/db/produc...1003-AM002.pdf

this is what OP meant to post

 

I have seen AMS and Bruchur and others in Modified Mag. They make good parts. The price you pay for HKS is more, so does that mean it's better? Well it is being shipped from JAPAN, so most of that extra money probably is being wasted on shipping and tariffs etc.

 

sorry i will rephrase it, yes your right it did come across a tad bias however,

i sell and use Fp turbos very happy no issue,

ok as some have mentioned that HKS do a fair bit of R&D so what would the purpose of doing this manifold this way rather than the way of the factory design,

look i am open to ears personally looking at the full race manifold,

but i buy things once and buy them right.

 

preach.

 

Agreed.

 

Any HKS built Evo X's planning on attending the Buschur Shootout? Would be a good time to test 1/4 mile performance with upgraded turbos. The only HKS item I have are 1 heat range colder spark plugs, the rest of the JDM products just don't seem to justify their price to performance ratio. I guess everyone can have their opinion of what is best but let's see the bench racing taken to the race track!

 

I believe the reason HKS made this kit the way they did is purely due to costs. They already have a turbo, so they simply made an adapter that allowed them to use an existing turbo they already produce.

Wanting to keep the stock cast manifold is definitely logical for two reasons: it should be reliable (i.e. not crack) and its cheaper to keep it (rather than replace it or cast a new one).

So, in my opinion, they sacrificed performance for costs. Going to the undivided housing will hurt spool up and response. This is a non-issue on a drag car, but will hurt a street/road-course car.

They had the possible options of casting a new turbine housing like Garrett ($$$$$), or a new exhaust manifold ($$$), or make an adapter to bolt up an existing turbo (cheapest option and what they did).