Both ETS and AMS claims that their core is 20" wide... ETS said that the end tanks will not show through the bumper... while the blue EvoX above with the AMS i/c is showing the end tanks... if both brand are 20" wide, why would one shows, and one doesn't? do each manufacture measure the width differently?

 

good observation, I just wish there was a clear cut superior product, most of them have very good products.

 

Our intercooler core is infact 20" wide. The picture above shows the car with brake ducts rather than the stock molding on the side of the intercooler. Here is a picture of the same car before the brake ducts were put on, it fills the bumper very nicely while still showing our quality welds.

 

A little food for thought as well. Although IC placement might be a bit different the core that we are using on our TAX time attack car is the very same core we sell as our EVO X FMIC. Being the highest WHP EVO X currently in the world this same core has been proven to support 750whp!

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...tonwillow.html

Like any product we sell we don't just produce great HP gains we test it and beat the living hell out of it to make sure it will last for years to come on your car.

Between TAX and Ryan Gates EVO X NO FMIC made for the EVO X has been put through as much torture as The AMS unit and no other unit has more wins behind it

Eric

 

get ETS

 

I agree that AMS and ETS are at the front of the pack right now. I would go with AMS but its like $1200 something for upper, lower, and FMIC. If money is an issue, ETS has their kit for $850 right now bc of the holidays. So if you are tight on money you can get some nice products from ETS.

 

You can't even tell the difference in spool up. The stock intercooler is way too small for the vehicle.

 

If you say so...
But it is strange, anyway. The air has to pass longer way thus the lag increases.

 

Sorry for the confusion. I in no way tried to bash Garrett products, since I am well aware of their heritage.

Some posters need to check their pride at the door. Somebody said poorly R&D Turbo designed by Garrett, but then say it's ok, since they are a great company???? What about the people who bought this Turbo for $2,100 and now won't even get the revised version upgrade???

I'm sorry but that is horrible customer service. UR may have some DP break, but are willing to replace on the spot. Never did I bash Garrett, but merely said the comment " All Garrett products are great" is false.

I also had my eyes on GT30 series, but was shocked at the results.

Let's remember, that a company is only as great as their most recent product, since what you did in the past won't pay the bills today.

Don't want to keep argument going, but I had to defend my point. And my ETS 4" anodized black, was at my door 10 days after ordering. 4 days anodizing and 5 days shipping.

 

When I had my 3.5" + piping put on I noticed a huge increase in throttle response and lag was about the same. Check out ETS's comparison dyno charts for each ETS part.

 

Your talking milliseconds is not less to fill that extra space nothing you will ever notice.

 

I run the ETS 4" core I get 25 psi @ 3100 rpm...

I don't think you will miss out on any lag.

 

You got me convinced. .

I understand that all the ETS' ICs are P&P without any fabrications/cutting/etc., needed, right?

Can someone tell me if you could feel any difference by replacing UIP alone?

 

Yes, you gain maybe 0.5 psi to 1 psi of boost, maybe gain a few hp, reports of up to 15whp from UICP.

Btw, I am originally from Katowice.

Big pimpin in a EVO in Poland.

 

Thanks for answering the post Migs and Clipse! Your absolutely right!

Thanks,

Michael