Red.

 

You think FP will come out with a Black for the X?

 

Much easier choice with bad fuel you need more turbo..

Mike

 

Yes youll need to lean on the car harder with pump to make 400+ and with that it doesn't leave much room for error when you get the bad tank of gas.. That happens A LOT more times then people know with pump..

 

yeah but I cant stand lag... so for me the red is out..

I am waiting to see what CBRD's mini-bbx is like

 

well 82hp @ 3000rpm is 144tq

 

Tephra, folks here are saying that the red spools about300rpm later than the green, do you disagree? If so, what have you seen?

 

the graphs from FP show:

Green spools by about 3500rpm
Red spools by about 4400rpm

problem is MIVEC plays a big part in spool, I think if you got max boost out of a Red by 4000rpm you would be pretty lucky...

Green can probably do 3300rpm...

happy to be proven wrong of course

 

Ill have to dig thru some dyno sheets but i dont recall a red being that far off a stock turbo.. 900rpm from stock to red seems like an awful lot so the green would need to spool faster than stock.. Let me see what i can dig up on before and after red vs stock..

Mike

 

Thanks for your help Mike!

 

Here you go...stock vs Fpred, both are on e85 so its a good comparo...



Also with using a 3 port, my tuner slows spool down on the top end to avoid overboosting, so I would say 30psi by 3700rpm is pretty damn good

Sorry that was my latest tune...here is one before, still on stock clutch tune vs. E85 stock turbo.



It loses about 700rpm's of spool.

 

This is my green without cams

 

3200 vs 3700... 500rpm hehe


but still thats pretty good for Stock to Red

BUT 3200 on E85 seems a bit weak I hit full spool on 92.5oct by about 2900rpm (in 4th) and E85 will only make it spool faster...

so yeah 700 is probably about right...

 

I think the green os more for me, but i wouldnt make good power with it due to crappy fuel so ill just regret i got it, and the red, well.....I dont think i can get used to the extra lag, its bad enough the way it is and i am neve on the highway, mostlly city driving on my day to day

 

That is a 3rd gear graph.