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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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Buschur vs MAP Exh manifold porting

MAP's price $225
Buschur's price = $107

WTF?

How can the quality be this different? You guys with experience wanna chime in on this?
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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The answer is quite simple actually, it's all about time. We do all of our porting and polishing in house (from exhaust manifolds to cylinder heads and everything in between) with special tooling that allows us to port everything within line of sight which in this case is almost every internal surface of the Evo X exhaust manifold. The upside is that we squeeze every last horsepower out of the stock manifold, but the downside is time as we literally spend more than 8 hours on each exhaust manifold.

Now, please understand that everyone has an opinion in regards to the additional gains that can be realized from this additional work. We feel that their are significant gains to be had for a relatively small investment, as such we have only been offering this service. Please let me know if there are any further questions

Edit: I forgot to mention we are a Buschur Racing distributor as well, so we can help you with whatever route you decide to go


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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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I am squeezing 570whp outta a MAP ported exhaust mani (coated too from them)...so whether or not I gained any from there's over anothers, who knows...I can tell you I am pushing a lot of air though it and it works great and spools fantastic.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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I got really solid gains from MAP ported intake and exhaust mani's. Great service. Decent turn around time.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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Buschur Ported Exhaust Manifold is all we use.. Along with the intake manifold.. I think the results speak better than pictures.. Not sure if your looking to go faster than this..


World's Quickest / Fastest Stock Ecu - 8.99@163mph ( Intake Mani )
World's Quickest / Fastest Drag Radial Evo 8/9- 9.05@160mph ( Intake Mani )
World's Quickest / Fastest Mivec Evo - 8.99@163mph 9 ( Intake Mani )
World's Quickest Stock Frame FP Black - 9.33@146mph ( Intake and Exhaust Mani )
World's Quickest / Fastest Stock Turbo Evo - 10.21@133mph ( Most-Wanted ) ( Exhaust mani )
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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Thanks for the kind words guys!
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports
Buschur Ported Exhaust Manifold is all we use..
But you guys hate MAP, lol, so that is a little biased...I like MAP and Buschur and would recommend either, was simply stating the MAP one worked great for me
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by murlo26
But you guys hate MAP, lol, so that is a little biased...I like MAP and Buschur and would recommend either, was simply stating the MAP one worked great for me
I made NO COMMENT ON IF BR WAS BETTER.. All i can state is the REAL WORLD RESULTS we have had.. Please dont make this into what it isnt..

Mike
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports
I made NO COMMENT ON IF BR WAS BETTER.. All i can state is the REAL WORLD RESULTS we have had.. Please dont make this into what it isnt..

Mike
Sorry, you are right, enough blood has been spilled...I will be quiet.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports
Buschur Ported Exhaust Manifold is all we use.. Along with the intake manifold.. I think the results speak better than pictures.. Not sure if your looking to go faster than this..


World's Quickest / Fastest Stock Ecu - 8.99@163mph ( Intake Mani )
World's Quickest / Fastest Drag Radial Evo 8/9- 9.05@160mph ( Intake Mani )
World's Quickest / Fastest Mivec Evo - 8.99@163mph 9 ( Intake Mani )
World's Quickest Stock Frame FP Black - 9.33@146mph ( Intake and Exhaust Mani )
World's Quickest / Fastest Stock Turbo Evo - 10.21@133mph ( Most-Wanted ) ( Exhaust mani )
If it works, don' fix it. Great philosophy.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadrunr
If it works, don' fix it. Great philosophy.
Don
I would fully agree, that is a great philosophy.

However, the funny thing is none of those even apply to what this thread is about...this is the Evo X section, different platform completely, good call though

Regardless, I think both companies offer great services...but the real question here is, would those people go faster with a different ported manifold, maybe/maybe not, nobody will ever know though
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by murlo26
I would fully agree, that is a great philosophy.

However, the funny thing is none of those even apply to what this thread is about...this is the Evo X section, different platform completely, good call though

Regardless, I think both companies offer great services...but the real question here is, would those people go faster with a different ported manifold, maybe/maybe not, nobody will ever know though
I don't know about the X, but when they did a comparo of the buschur vs MAP ported exhaust manifold for the VIII-IX, the MAP ported manifold made more power.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
I don't know about the X, but when they did a comparo of the buschur vs MAP ported exhaust manifold for the VIII-IX, the MAP ported manifold made more power.
Very interesting, was all else equal? Such as tune, boost, day, car, etc, etc?
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Very interesting, was all else equal? Such as tune, boost, day, car, etc, etc?
Yes. The MAP manifold made more because they ported all the way through. Buschur only ports a few inches in.

There was a whole bunch of drama because david pushur proudly stated that the extra porting that MAP does will not yield any significant gains over their ported exhaust manifold. Boy did he get proved wrong.
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