Inferior design, inferior product, inferior results.

 

Junk, my buddy just had one of these on his genesis coupe wouldnt build over 8 psi. Replaced with a new one and about 300 miles later the turbo crapped out on him. You didnt spend almost 40k on great car to jack it up with crappy parts. I have seen some mickeymouse crap here that makes me shake my head sometimes!

 

I wish you the best that everything works out but I have to agree. Why not spend the money on the companies that r&d and have proven solutions. I won't deal with any parts or kits that the top reputable companies such as ETS, AMS, Buschur, ... won't endorse. Invest in professionals for results. Good luck.

 

It wasnt that he wasnt willing to spend the money on a "name brand" company, turbo, whatever.... these are new to the market and someone had to be the guinea pig. These turbos worked great on the 8/9 and one of our close friends had one making some great power for a loooooong time. Sometimes you pay the price to be the first.

 

I have the Kinugawa 20G on my car, currently. I have had it for 5k miles, and it works the same now as the day that I bought it. The wheels and bearings are genuine Kamak (go ahead and look them up). I beat on the car, make more power than you, and drive the thing everyday without worry. Shake your head all you want.

 

inferior results?

so because I was dumb over revved my car that means its the turbo's fault?

I simply stated this turbo is not a plug and play. I saw it when it got to the house and I opted to continue for the sake of research.

I don't see anything inferior about the turbo , kamak has been making parts for turbos forever.. Just because the name Kinugawa seems like and offshoot brand doesn't mean it isn't good.

all turbo's at one point or another were no name brands.

anyhow car is up and running again.. put a 1.7 bar spring on it.. and I will have it tunned shortly.

 

Im glad you know how much power I make Looked them up, nice generic website nothing impressing. I will shake my head this is probably the 5th or 6th one i have seen fail.

 

Judging by your mod list you can't be making THAT much power im just messing man, but all in all I know a few people that have the turbos and they have performed flawlessly for WHILE now

 

Nice, back up already, impressive, good turn around time !

 

You are right. I do apologize.

 

Your right, someone will have to be the first to experiment. All I'm saying is I rather have a pro quality shop do the R&D and pay the extra to get a proven repeatable result. If the experimenter is doing it for the point of enjoyment of experimentation then more power to them. If the point is to save money then I don't support that strategy. Not saying that I know the op's intentions. Maybe the op just has the mad scientist in his blood and that is cool. However, I say support the local pro quality shops that have built up the community and support the community long term. There is logic also in directing the money, support, towards the true community pioneering innovators for many reasons without going into a long winded explanation.

 

Completely agreed! After reading this thread I have pretty much dropped this route and will be going with an ETS kit for my build!

 

argument not valid again.. Every "Pro Shop" came from somewhere and experimented.
So I still dont' get it, nothing mad about testing something out.

This turbo on IX and VIII's have proven themselves to be an adequate turbo. Nice power gains , drop in TQ.

This is my in between turbo before i build my engine ( hell I got a spare block now)

eventually I am going to go with a custom built turbo on my 2.3L built.

 

Mad scientist is not a insult. Just a dude that has the ***** to go the experimentation route with the coin to rebound unexpected results and tinker until the desired effect is gotten. I can't go that route for various reasons, one being financial. So I personally pay for the result from long term proven sources. Would I like to be able to R&D and gain insightful knowledge? Absolutely. My point is that I support people experimenting for the right reasons and not the ones going a route bc of cheaper parts and then complaining when things go wrong. You clearly don't. More power to you. You exemplify the right attitude and I'm not bashing your experimenting. I wish you the best on your quest.

 

+1 well said.