Hey guys, my car is currently in speedcircuit for a rebuild, however, due to the unexpected quote that I got from them, 15k for 2.2l+heads, I decided to go erl 2.0l route. But, now I was told I am going to be charged extra for outsourcing the parts........ First time I heard that. Usually I bring parts to a mechanic to install but now i'm being charged. Is that normal?

Anyways, I decided to go with 2.2l from speedcircuit when I saw the post that it would be 7k up and running. What made me decide to change my mind was the 1k tune for the 2.2l + the 15k build (this is without any aftermarket turbo)

So my main goal is 2.0l erl (but now there would be additional fee for doing that as stated by dino...), no headwork just cams and springs.

Reallly need some advice here please, I just feel like this is going way way over the price range I currently was looking it..

First I saw on their 2.2l post that it would be around 7k so I decided to bring my car to them, then was told 10k with tune , now that I got the quote Its 12k. Then I decide to go a different route, now i'm getting charged extra for sourcing the block from erl =/. so the money I saved going erl route + shipping from the 2.2l would be almost null? oh and the labor cost would be 36 hours at 80 per hour..

I'm not trying to make dino look bad as I am only stating facts here but I DO feel like this is going way over my head....
Need advice please, thanks.

My block is already apart and am bing charged 1400 for it then 5k for the block which confuses me since they would need to break the car apart anyways to build it so i'm like ?? whaa?? when I emailed with him he said it was for for the added time he spend speaking with the insurance company...... and that is why its 36 hours labor... 1400 for breaking the car apart and speaking with my insurance company, and 1400+ for putting everything back with the 2.2l and timing chain upgrade and 1000 dollar tune since its a 2.2l.

 

I'd walk away. Sounds like you'll be spending upwards 20k after adding on a new turbo kit. That's about what your car itself is worth...

 

That doesn't really add up or make sense.

What does the insurance company have to do with anything?

 

Charging me extra for the time he spent speaking with the insurance company on the phone. Not sure how many hours he spoke with them.....
I asked him why is he charging me for the whole block on their site when the whole block is already apart... I Ask him that the labor to break the car apart and put it together should have been included with their 2.2l block, since if you buy just their 2.2l block the 5k tag price includes an assembled block already... Now it felt like i'm paying for a built shortblock + paying for it to get dismantled. Then I got shocked also when he said 1k to tune a 2.2 liter =/ I don't know. My friends here in jersey are telling me to just tow the car somewhere else but it's 200+ to tow it to places near where I live and I still have to pay the 1400... That and I dont know if the next place will be doing the same.

oh is it normal if you buy a block somewhere else and the mechanic that would put it will charge you extra for it? I guess, like you buy the block through them with, ofcourse, their cut. SInce I told him that I cant afford the 2.2 based on the prices he gave me and i'm going with an erl block to save some few bucks. I don't know how much he is talking about since he hasn't responded to my mail yet but it feels like if I go erl route then I pay for shipping both ways + speedcircuits cut then it would probably be equal to the price tag of their 2.2l...I dont know.....

 

hey i am the new guy but after two decades of building cars,my opinion, you should walk. that is out of control. i hope the evo community is not full of this behavior.

 

thenewcraze, 16k with their stage 3 head. Of course i'm not getting the head though. edit: that's without a turbo.

it's
2.2l block
36 hours labor @ 80/hr
timing belt, serpentine belt, hyudai pulley, oil gauge.
arp head studs
stage 3 head
1k tune

so minus the stage 3 head, it is around 13k+

 

they have my car apart though and I live 2 hours away. so the towing will be around 200+. And I'll still have to pay the 1400 for the engine teardown. But i'm thinking about it now.

I initially planed to bring it to ivey since i get my parts install there and tuning... but i saw speedcircuits posts in their 2.2l post on evoxforums when one guy asked how much will it be up and running and they said engine plus 2k labor. I should have gotten a quote before I brought my car there, my biggest mistake.

 

I gotcha. Just didn't understand the role of the insurance company. Did something happen to the car for them to get involved? Or just adding coverage for the things that are going in?

That's not too bad of a deal. I'm not really sure what is going on with the breakdown charge but I figured it to be around $10K installed + turbo kit. And that's with an unstroked 2L with an untouched head.

 

somebody broke my carpretty much which required a rebuild. had it torndown to see the damages. mainly some light scorn on parts but no hole on block or bent rods. And heavy wear on the bearings. Their insurance is paying me for the damages which is still in the works, hopefully soon.

 

Gotcha. That makes sense now. And if you prefaced that in your original post I'm sorry I didn't catch it

 

np... things gets jumbled up when you're upset lol sorry

 

Honestly, I would definitely go this route. Leave the head - already pretty efficient. The most reliable built blocks that I've researched have been 2.0L (including highest HP X). ERL does great work - AMS uses them for their blocks as I'm sure other reputable companies as well. They also seem to be competitively priced.