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Old Dec 26, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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Need help picking motor

I'm in the market for a new motor I was looking at map stage 2 2.0 short block and stage 3 head with gen 2 3576 turbo but now min it sure if that will get me where I want to be. The car will be a DD but I want a street beast. So my question is will a 2.2 big bore or stroker be better I'm looking for 650-750 hp and 500 tq ish it will be gas only no e85 here but I can run 110 Oct also going v-band over stock location is better? And I only have 17k to do it
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 12:30 PM
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How does this sound? Map stage 2 2.0 and a 3582r v band with 1700cc injectors and 2 walbro 450s. Will that work
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 12:43 PM
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My only advice is to stay away from MAP short blocks. Call up English Racing to get one that will last.
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 01:09 PM
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MAP is garbage. They're port work loses power, and their engine program is questionable at best. They also don't race what they sell.

If you want a reliable street beast, hit up the shop that breaks records, and then breaks them again- English Racing. All of the tricks they've learned to make the 4b11 go rounds at 1200whp get applied to their customer engines. You won't find a better 4b11.

You will need a turbo kit for your power goals, and the full compliment of supporting mods. With only $17k, that is a tight budget for the goals. I would get an ER sleeved short block, you could stick a stock head on it with S2 cams and twin scroll ETS turbo kit with a 6266 will do ~700whp on race fuel.

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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 02:02 PM
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That's to funny just got off the phone with English and I think I'm going to say screw it and just buy the long block that way there I have nothing to worry about. $15,300 2.0 race and 2849.00 for the 6266 ETS kit sounds good to me
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 02:26 PM
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That's to funny just got off the phone with English and I think I'm going to say screw it and just buy the long block that way there I have nothing to worry about. $15,300 2.0 race and 2849.00 for the 6266 ETS kit sounds good to me
Great decision.
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Definitely a solid decision, you won't be disappointed.
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 03:15 PM
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For fuel will I need the double pumper or should 1 be enough
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Originally Posted by newevoxguy
For fuel will I need the double pumper or should 1 be enough
500 or more WHP = double pumper.
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 03:57 PM
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You're going to need bigger injectors, 1300's or 1650/1700's. And a single walbro 450 should do it on gasoline. But 1650/1700's and twin 255's will be the safest bet and you won't have to redo it.
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 05:09 PM
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I have 1700s now I got a deal on them a while back which lead me to this. The 450s are on sale right now for 100 each so I figured I'd get them just to give me room to grow

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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 08:34 PM
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Just remember: if you are going to use e85, a single 450 won't be enough.
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 09:06 PM
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I don't have e85 here just 93 and 116
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 09:14 PM
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Gotcha. Should be to go. Doooiiiit!
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Old Dec 30, 2018 | 11:31 AM
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for gas, 1700's and a single F90000274 or newer F90000285 will be just fine. Keep it simple.

My build made 640whp DJ on E80 with the F90000274 just about maxed out past 8k rpm.
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