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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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You are spot on with your thoughts.

All the previous EVOs have been what they are in large part because of Mitsubishi's focus on WRC competition. The first EVO was born out of Mitsubishi need to build 2,000 cars to meet the FIA's homologation requirements to go rallying. From these humble beginnings, the EVO has grown to be a street going monster. Unfortunately, Mitsu's decision to put the WRC on the backburner (it dropped its WRC program for a while) has jeopardized the future of the EVO. Its glaringly obvious the composition of the new EVO X is not the stuff of a rally champion. For example, heavy 19" wheels adorned the "concept X". While it is unlikely such uneeded bling will make it to the production model, the fact that Mitsubishi even had these on the concept car is a statement in itself. Yes my friends, our beloved EVO is headed "upmarket". The EVO is about to suffer the same fate the Eclipse did back in 2000 when Mitsubishi decided to ditch the 4g63 and AWD in favor of a heavy V6 and FWD. Oh sure, the Eclipse still sells fairly well, but in no way is it the terrific sports car it was in its first and second generation. In the same way, the EVO will still sell but it will not captivate us as it has in the past. It no longer will be the hardcore race car we know and love.
Very nice post.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:17 AM
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that has to be the gheyest post. have you driven the X yet....I'm guessing no.
by watching the videos on you tube before they took them off it looked very impressive. granted it doesn't have that ford escort with a body kit look like the previous years but isn't it about performance anyway?
And how can you say its going the same road as the eclipse cuz it is going to have cruise control, oh think of the extra weight.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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Yes.

Because Evolution = 4G63. Not an engine shared with a Dodge SUV. -_-;
4g63=evolution/eagle talon/mitsu Eclipse.....ect
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 05:22 AM
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That's what people say when Evo 7 came out that the Evo 6 is the last true evo, then now evo 10.

4G63 doesn't = Evo, early 4G63 were used in Galant and Eclipse.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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i think scorke said it best.."its evolution baby" that is all
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Uh, they changed powertrain on the Eclipse and rebaged the Mirage to a Lancer to make way for the Evolutions coming to America so that the 2 cars would not compete with each other.

The Lancer Evolution was born to stay competitive in Rallying. The Galant VR4 is what started it all (all wheel drive powertrain) as far as MMC was concerened in rallying. The Lancer Evolution was created to gues what, have a lighter more compact package to stay competitive in rallying.

MMC put rallying on hold because it was in dire straights a couple of years back and is currently making a slow comback from it's financial whoes!!

A lot of people say that the 9 is the last evolution, it is not it was the VI!! It was still based on a championship wining car that was homologated for Group A specs to run with the WRC cars which dominated with Tomi Makinen behind the wheel!!

Misubishi has finally woken up! They introduced the Evolution VIII here ( an overwight shadow of it's former self) to get ready for the Evolution X a car that is moving away form the original car's persona.

Who know maybe MMC will create another lighter and more compact platform that will focus on performance!! I have my fingers crossed.


Originally Posted by Zmann42087
You are spot on with your thoughts.

All the previous EVOs have been what they are in large part because of Mitsubishi's focus on WRC competition. The first EVO was born out of Mitsubishi need to build 2,000 cars to meet the FIA's homologation requirements to go rallying. From these humble beginnings, the EVO has grown to be a street going monster. Unfortunately, Mitsu's decision to put the WRC on the backburner (it dropped its WRC program for a while) has jeopardized the future of the EVO. Its glaringly obvious the composition of the new EVO X is not the stuff of a rally champion. For example, heavy 19" wheels adorned the "concept X". While it is unlikely such uneeded bling will make it to the production model, the fact that Mitsubishi even had these on the concept car is a statement in itself. Yes my friends, our beloved EVO is headed "upmarket". The EVO is about to suffer the same fate the Eclipse did back in 2000 when Mitsubishi decided to ditch the 4g63 and AWD in favor of a heavy V6 and FWD. Oh sure, the Eclipse still sells fairly well, but in no way is it the terrific sports car it was in its first and second generation. In the same way, the EVO will still sell but it will not captivate us as it has in the past. It no longer will be the hardcore race car we know and love.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlelancer
whoever thinks the X won't have aftermarket support from the existing major companies are the dumbest ****s ever.. sorry i had to say it

No need to explain why if you don't see it your just a dumb *** lol
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Zmann42087
You are spot on with your thoughts.

All the previous EVOs have been what they are in large part because of Mitsubishi's focus on WRC competition. The first EVO was born out of Mitsubishi need to build 2,000 cars to meet the FIA's homologation requirements to go rallying. From these humble beginnings, the EVO has grown to be a street going monster. Unfortunately, Mitsu's decision to put the WRC on the backburner (it dropped its WRC program for a while) has jeopardized the future of the EVO. Its glaringly obvious the composition of the new EVO X is not the stuff of a rally champion. For example, heavy 19" wheels adorned the "concept X". While it is unlikely such uneeded bling will make it to the production model, the fact that Mitsubishi even had these on the concept car is a statement in itself. Yes my friends, our beloved EVO is headed "upmarket". The EVO is about to suffer the same fate the Eclipse did back in 2000 when Mitsubishi decided to ditch the 4g63 and AWD in favor of a heavy V6 and FWD. Oh sure, the Eclipse still sells fairly well, but in no way is it the terrific sports car it was in its first and second generation. In the same way, the EVO will still sell but it will not captivate us as it has in the past. It no longer will be the hardcore race car we know and love.
Well really, the Evo going the way of the Eclipse is far fetched to an extent. The only "bleh" thing one can say about the new Evo is the perdicted weight gain that has everyone's panties in a bunch and really, that's all speculation. The Eclipse while @ one point being a sports car capable of performance, also isn't a car that always had first priority as far as "THAT" performance benchmark which defines teh best Mitsu can offer. The Evo has for the past 15 years as Mitsu went through other flash in the pan hotties (3000GT, FTO).
Sure the Evo will be going upscale but as long as it's a car that'll represent Mitsubishi in WRC it won't be too wussyfied to Eclipse levels. It'll still have AWD at least plus once tuners have their fun it'll also be a car that SHOULD be capable of some power upgrades (how much? lets see how strong Mitsu will make the tranny first ).
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CT9AMR
A lot of people say that the 9 is the last evolution, it is not it was the VI!! It was still based on a championship wining car that was homologated for Group A specs to run with the WRC cars which dominated with Tomi Makinen behind the wheel!!
No, actually TM still drove the VII (CT9A) on a non-winning year before actually retiring and jumping back in thru subaru a year later. VII=VIII=IX except for AYC in US versions.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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I traded in my 8 to buy a 9 and will not be trading the 9 for X
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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I just don't like the Dodge Platform sharing, seems less of a focused race car and more of a quick street ride.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CT9AMR
Who know maybe MMC will create another lighter and more compact platform that will focus on performance!! I have my fingers crossed.
Could it be? The LanEvo ends at the X and the Colt Evo begins? Would make sense for WRC.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sblvro
No, actually TM still drove the VII (CT9A) on a non-winning year before actually retiring and jumping back in thru subaru a year later. VII=VIII=IX except for AYC in US versions.
Yes, Makinen was still with MMC when the new platform was released, but this was a totally new platform and it was a full WRC spec car which was not very competative. Not like the IV, V, and VI which were running on Group A specs competing with the big boys in the WRC events!!

When the VII came out the car got longer, heavier and so on and so forth. Not good for rallying. That is why the Peugot 206 was very dominant when it came out. Very compact and very light!!!

The CT9A platform evolved into a good circuit car which is still awesome in it's own right!!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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The more I look at it and think about it, the more I'm starting to like this new Evolution.

Ok, so it's not a "real" evolution by some standards as it's not a rally platform like the pre-VII versions. But look at it for what it is - a solid chassis, AWD, high-power, well handeling four-door sedan.

It satisfies the "fast and fun" while fulfilling the "practical" all in one. PLus, it looks GREAT!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Someday
The more I look at it and think about it, the more I'm starting to like this new Evolution.

Ok, so it's not a "real" evolution by some standards as it's not a rally platform like the pre-VII versions. But look at it for what it is - a solid chassis, AWD, high-power, well handeling four-door sedan.

It satisfies the "fast and fun" while fulfilling the "practical" all in one. PLus, it looks GREAT!
There was an article in one of the stickys that said Mitsu planned to rally with this new platform. If they do, wouldn't that make it a "real" evolution?

What if the X WRC car wins?
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