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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
These threads are a little bit like playing World of Warcraft... buncha whiny babies. The last true "Evolution" was the Evo I... the rest have all been remakes
Agreed!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Meaning the Structural rigidity of the 2008 lancer is stonger then the Evo IX? That I find amazing.
Yup, by something around 50% stiffer. VERY good news for the Evo X.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Dodge influence is no goood
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO_NJ
Dodge influence is no goood
lmao and the 4g63 dodge had no influence?

as much as i hate dodge, chevy and ford.

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO_NJ
Dodge influence is no goood
You're right, who'd want an engine out of a Dodge Omni! I mean, the 4G63 was just a piece of crap, right? Because it was in a Dodge car?
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by psycho 4 life
lmao and the 4g63 dodge had no influence?

as much as i hate dodge, chevy and ford.
the 4g63 was never in a dodge car. maybe a mitsubishi car with a dodge badge but not the omni. just checked again, 4g63 was never in any american car except for the eclipse/clone dsm.

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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the 4g63 was never in a dodge car. maybe a mitsubishi car with a dodge badge but not the omni. just checked again, 4g63 was never in any american car except for the eclipse/clone dsm.
4G63

The 4G63 was a 1997 cc version. SOHC and DOHC were produced. The DOHC version was introduced in 1987 in the Japanese market Galant VR-4 and came turbocharged or naturally aspirated. It is found in various models including the 1988-92 Galant VR-4 and the U.S. market 1990-1999 Eclipse.

The SOHC version was used in Mitsubishi Galant models until 1997 across the world. It has 101 KW of output and 176 NM of torque at 4750 rpm.

The Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser introduced the DOHC turbocharged intercooled version to the U.S. in 1989 through Diamond Star Motors, a joint venture between Mitsubishi Motors and the Chrysler Corporation (now DaimlerChrysler). 1990 to late April 1992 came with beefier rods and used 6 bolts to secure the flywheel to the crankshaft, May 1992 to present EVO versions have lighter rods and use 7 bolts to secure the flywheel to the crankshaft. They are referred to as the "six bolt" and "seven bolt" engines, respectively.

Output for the US-spec 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is 271 hp (202 kW) at 6500 rpm with 273 ft·lbf (370 N·m) of torque at 3500 rpm. It has a cast iron engine block and aluminum DOHC cylinder head. It uses MPI multi-point fuel injection, has 4 valves per cylinder, is turbocharged and intercooled and features forged steel connecting rods. With the release of the Lancer Evolution IX (286hp @ 6500rpm, 289ft*lb of @ 3500rpm, 7000rpm redline), it has received Mitsubishi's MIVEC variable valve timing system, which gives smoother power delivery and a flatter torque curve.

In the United Kingdom, a special Lancer Evolution, the FQ-400, produces 302.13 kW (405.2 hp), from a 4G63 engine. At 202.6 hp (151.3 kW) per liter, it has possibly the highest specific output per liter of any production engine.

[edit] Racing

Its turbocharged variant, 4G63T (also sometimes referred to simply as the 4G63), has powered Mitsubishi vehicles in World Rally Championships for years in the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4, Lancer Evolution, Carisma GT and Lancer WRC04. It was the powerplant of the Lancer Evolution when Tommi Mäkinen won his four sequential WRC championships.

Applications:

* 1984–1987 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1988 Mitsubishi Cordia
* 1988 Mitsubishi Tredia
* 1988–1992 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1989–1992 Mitsubishi Galant
* 1989–1992 US-spec Mitsubishi Galant
* 1990–1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse
* 1990–1998 Eagle Talon
* 1990–1994 Plymouth Laser
* 1982-1990 Mitsubishi Starion (Australia)
* 1992–1998 Hyundai Sonata
* 1994–1998 Mitsubishi RVR X3 Turbo
* 1992-2007 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo


so please come again
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Good one guy! People swear they love their EVOs and the 4G63, but they don't know their history.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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<edit> Posted twice.

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by psycho 4 life
4G63

The 4G63 was a 1997 cc version. SOHC and DOHC were produced. The DOHC version was introduced in 1987 in the Japanese market Galant VR-4 and came turbocharged or naturally aspirated. It is found in various models including the 1988-92 Galant VR-4 and the U.S. market 1990-1999 Eclipse.

The SOHC version was used in Mitsubishi Galant models until 1997 across the world. It has 101 KW of output and 176 NM of torque at 4750 rpm.

The Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser introduced the DOHC turbocharged intercooled version to the U.S. in 1989 through Diamond Star Motors, a joint venture between Mitsubishi Motors and the Chrysler Corporation (now DaimlerChrysler). 1990 to late April 1992 came with beefier rods and used 6 bolts to secure the flywheel to the crankshaft, May 1992 to present EVO versions have lighter rods and use 7 bolts to secure the flywheel to the crankshaft. They are referred to as the "six bolt" and "seven bolt" engines, respectively.

Output for the US-spec 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is 271 hp (202 kW) at 6500 rpm with 273 ft·lbf (370 N·m) of torque at 3500 rpm. It has a cast iron engine block and aluminum DOHC cylinder head. It uses MPI multi-point fuel injection, has 4 valves per cylinder, is turbocharged and intercooled and features forged steel connecting rods. With the release of the Lancer Evolution IX (286hp @ 6500rpm, 289ft*lb of @ 3500rpm, 7000rpm redline), it has received Mitsubishi's MIVEC variable valve timing system, which gives smoother power delivery and a flatter torque curve.

In the United Kingdom, a special Lancer Evolution, the FQ-400, produces 302.13 kW (405.2 hp), from a 4G63 engine. At 202.6 hp (151.3 kW) per liter, it has possibly the highest specific output per liter of any production engine.

[edit] Racing

Its turbocharged variant, 4G63T (also sometimes referred to simply as the 4G63), has powered Mitsubishi vehicles in World Rally Championships for years in the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4, Lancer Evolution, Carisma GT and Lancer WRC04. It was the powerplant of the Lancer Evolution when Tommi Mäkinen won his four sequential WRC championships.

Applications:

* 1984–1987 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1988 Mitsubishi Cordia
* 1988 Mitsubishi Tredia
* 1988–1992 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1989–1992 Mitsubishi Galant
* 1989–1992 US-spec Mitsubishi Galant
* 1990–1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse
* 1990–1998 Eagle Talon
* 1990–1994 Plymouth Laser
* 1982-1990 Mitsubishi Starion (Australia)
* 1992–1998 Hyundai Sonata
* 1994–1998 Mitsubishi RVR X3 Turbo
* 1992-2007 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo


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nice try! if you look again the denomination 4G63 is the general term for this sirius engine and true it has many variants. but the "4G63" we are talking about is the 2.0L DOHC which is available in the evo. the SOHC "4G63" does not even qualify because we are talking about the evo and some DSM which is actually the 4G63T. So yeah I should have said "4G63T 2.0L" in the discussion-end of story.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CT9AMR
Uh, they changed powertrain on the Eclipse and rebaged the Mirage to a Lancer to make way for the Evolutions coming to America so that the 2 cars would not compete with each other.
Mitsubishi changed the Eclipse to make room for the EVO in the United States? My friend, that is definitely begging the question. There was a good three year gap between the change of the Eclipse in 2000 and the release of the EVO VIII in 2003. There has never been anything said by Mitsubishi to suggest thats why they changed the Eclipse platform. You're drawing conclusions on you're own... fine with me. Just don't state them as facts.


Originally Posted by CT9AMR
The Lancer Evolution was born to stay competitive in Rallying. The Galant VR4 is what started it all (all wheel drive powertrain) as far as MMC was concerened in rallying. The Lancer Evolution was created to gues what, have a lighter more compact package to stay competitive in rallying.
The Galant VR4 is defintely not what "started it all". Mitsubishi has a grassroots rally history dating back to 1974. In that year the Mitsubishi Lancer made its debut in the WRC when Joginder Singh piloted the car in the 22nd Safari Rally.


Originally Posted by CT9AMR
MMC put rallying on hold because it was in dire straights a couple of years back and is currently making a slow comback from it's financial whoes!!
I know all about Mitsubishi's "whoes". I live less than an hour away from the old Diamond Star Motor plant in Bloomington-Normal, IL. I've seen thousands of factory workers get laid off because of Mitsubishi's financial troubles. This is nothing new to me.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zmann42087

The Galant VR4 is defintely not what "started it all". Mitsubishi has a grassroots rally history dating back to 1974. In that year the Mitsubishi Lancer made its debut in the WRC when Joginder Singh piloted the car in the 22nd Safari Rally.
+1 that lancer had a 4G33 engine. how do I know ? I had one
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:28 AM
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this thread at the very least shows some passion for mitsubishi's flagship sports vehicle whether evo I or X.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by psycho 4 life
4G63

The 4G63 was a 1997 cc version. SOHC and DOHC were produced. The DOHC version was introduced in 1987 in the Japanese market Galant VR-4 and came turbocharged or naturally aspirated. It is found in various models including the 1988-92 Galant VR-4 and the U.S. market 1990-1999 Eclipse.

The SOHC version was used in Mitsubishi Galant models until 1997 across the world. It has 101 KW of output and 176 NM of torque at 4750 rpm.

The Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser introduced the DOHC turbocharged intercooled version to the U.S. in 1989 through Diamond Star Motors, a joint venture between Mitsubishi Motors and the Chrysler Corporation (now DaimlerChrysler). 1990 to late April 1992 came with beefier rods and used 6 bolts to secure the flywheel to the crankshaft, May 1992 to present EVO versions have lighter rods and use 7 bolts to secure the flywheel to the crankshaft. They are referred to as the "six bolt" and "seven bolt" engines, respectively.

Output for the US-spec 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is 271 hp (202 kW) at 6500 rpm with 273 ft·lbf (370 N·m) of torque at 3500 rpm. It has a cast iron engine block and aluminum DOHC cylinder head. It uses MPI multi-point fuel injection, has 4 valves per cylinder, is turbocharged and intercooled and features forged steel connecting rods. With the release of the Lancer Evolution IX (286hp @ 6500rpm, 289ft*lb of @ 3500rpm, 7000rpm redline), it has received Mitsubishi's MIVEC variable valve timing system, which gives smoother power delivery and a flatter torque curve.

In the United Kingdom, a special Lancer Evolution, the FQ-400, produces 302.13 kW (405.2 hp), from a 4G63 engine. At 202.6 hp (151.3 kW) per liter, it has possibly the highest specific output per liter of any production engine.

[edit] Racing

Its turbocharged variant, 4G63T (also sometimes referred to simply as the 4G63), has powered Mitsubishi vehicles in World Rally Championships for years in the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4, Lancer Evolution, Carisma GT and Lancer WRC04. It was the powerplant of the Lancer Evolution when Tommi Mäkinen won his four sequential WRC championships.

Applications:

* 1984–1987 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1988 Mitsubishi Cordia
* 1988 Mitsubishi Tredia
* 1988–1992 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1989–1992 Mitsubishi Galant
* 1989–1992 US-spec Mitsubishi Galant
* 1990–1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse
* 1990–1998 Eagle Talon
* 1990–1994 Plymouth Laser
* 1982-1990 Mitsubishi Starion (Australia)
* 1992–1998 Hyundai Sonata
* 1994–1998 Mitsubishi RVR X3 Turbo
* 1992-2007 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo


so please come again
you sir need to learn to do more research...or better research at that....

please tell the rest of the forum, now that you have made a fool of yourself who makes the colt?

heres a hint?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Colt

so please come again
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by UndieStainz
But isnt it true that the "real" wrc evo is still currently at the top of the PWRC (Group N)? And that the Lancer WRC05 (Group A) was a $500,000 Lancer with massive motorsports upgrades? Prove me wrong please...
AFAIK, it is a lancer, with wider fenders and *** loads of upgrades
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