I bought a IX because to me it is the last true Evolution
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Excuse my 1st post on this site. I just wanted to say I truly believe the upcoming Evo X is going to be a great car.. I do not know much about Evo at all but all the new technologies, performance upgrades and changes of exterior/interior looks also appealing to me and also to new potential buyers that does not know much about Evo just like me.
Granted, X does not retro images from the last IX evolution but why would they have to? Coming from a Z driver, I personally did not like the looks of last generation Evos but I've always respected its rally inspired car and admired its superior performance. The first time I saw the production images of an X, I have decided to sell my Z and get an X instead. I was going to put turbo on my Z but due to practical issue and $$, I thought I'm better off with Evo or STi that are already turbo charged and easy to make power with.. So later, when I saw both images of Evo and Sti, I've decided to go with Evo X because...it looked quite appealing to my eyes. It looked quite 'Evolution' to me. True, it's an only my personal perspective view, however, I know several buddies of mine who has Z, EvoIX, S2000, M3..they are all going to trade in with an X... That tells me, Mitsu is going with right direction and flowing with current marketing.
IMO, it will grab handful of attention from many buyers and no problem selling it. I like the way it 'Performs way it should while looks great on the roads'. I just hope that they make right decision on the price... End of Rent.
Granted, X does not retro images from the last IX evolution but why would they have to? Coming from a Z driver, I personally did not like the looks of last generation Evos but I've always respected its rally inspired car and admired its superior performance. The first time I saw the production images of an X, I have decided to sell my Z and get an X instead. I was going to put turbo on my Z but due to practical issue and $$, I thought I'm better off with Evo or STi that are already turbo charged and easy to make power with.. So later, when I saw both images of Evo and Sti, I've decided to go with Evo X because...it looked quite appealing to my eyes. It looked quite 'Evolution' to me. True, it's an only my personal perspective view, however, I know several buddies of mine who has Z, EvoIX, S2000, M3..they are all going to trade in with an X... That tells me, Mitsu is going with right direction and flowing with current marketing.
IMO, it will grab handful of attention from many buyers and no problem selling it. I like the way it 'Performs way it should while looks great on the roads'. I just hope that they make right decision on the price... End of Rent.
I'm in sales at a Mitsubishi dealership and I noticed something much different than some of you have been saying. I sold a Graphite Gray Lancer GTS and a used Graphite Gray IX. I had them both in our service drive with the Lancer GTS in front of the Evo IX. Both cars look very similar from the "A" pillar to the "C" pillar. The front and back ends of both cars look the same from the side view. The roof line looked the same too.
And I know this for a fact (since the new Lancer GTS still has the edge of the previous Lancer), the X will be much closer to the IX than people think with an upgraded look and feel.
Now I also sell new Subarus as well and boy did they screw up that WRX. There are people that work directly for Subaru that think they screwed up that car. They made it soft and took any rawness the car had previously out of it. The new Lancer still has that "rawness" and thats why people are going ape **** over it. I have not had one person even want to drive that new Impreza.
Last edited by LITE SPD; Sep 14, 2007 at 12:09 PM.
Wow...I can't believe I actually read the full thread...lol...This is what it seems like to me...lots of people who are against the X are people with current models of the eVo either the VIII or the iX...sure there are some that currently own it that think the X will do wonders but for the most part the biggest problem current owners have with the car is its looks...its funny because it seems that the X gets praises from those that don't even have an eVo...
It seems like some people believe that a new model is always superior to its predecessor ...which in most cases is true...but not always...For example...lets take a look at the new Subie WRX and what is to come of the STi...even though it is going to be the most powerful STi made to date...it still looks like the 04-05 models where the best looking ones of them all...With this said...why can't the same hold true for the eVo X? Seems to me like many of you are just too brand loyal that you are jaded by the fact that the X can or should have been designed more to its eVo roots like the previous eVo models...
Technologically speaking...yes...out of the box it will be faster...should handle better...etc...etc...but the one thing that it won't have right away is the aftermarket support...sure the 4b11 engine has been used in other vehicles...but did tuners actually have time to tinker with it? Not yet...and prolly won't for the next couple of years...maybe sooner...Another BIG this is the warrenty issues...do some of you actually think the majority of eVo X owners will be willing to sacrifice the warrenty over a part that can potentially VOID it...? I don't think so..I'm sure many will do enough mods to keep the warrenty there...the fact still remains the same though...the the 4g63t is a proven motor with tons of aftermarket support...with minimal mods can exceed the power of the 4b11...but lets not focus on that aspects since that will lead to whose got the deeper pockets in the end to mod their eVo's...
It seem as though the X is designed to appeal more to the genral population and a much more mautre demographic instead of the raw enthusiast the previous models were aimed at...with the features such as the SST...now anyone that didn't know how to drive a manual can still have an eVo..."bling bling" interior as oppose to the 8/9...shorter wing...making the car something a 50 year old can drive without looking stupid behind the wheel...along with the resemblence to the Lexus...Audi...Mazda vehicles...etc...etc...These alone with make the car a big seller...BUT not necessarly a huge seller among the eVo 8/9 community...I strongly believe that the 8/9 members will hold on to their eVo's for as long as possible...while "off the street" people will be picking up the new X...After all...if the current owners of the eVo have mixed feeling about the new model...should that say something to ?
This is a marketing ploy...the eVo X is not designed an evolution of the eVo iX at all...its designed on the current lancer...as the eVo's 8/9 have been designed on the current year lancer...its the sales of the lancer that allow the existance of the eVo...here in the states...thanks to the hundreds purchasing a grocery getter we can appreciate the eVo's...so thank your grandma or your girlfriend or some douchebag on the street in a lancer as it is because of them we can drive an eVo...
My final thought is this...I am not getting rid of my eVo iX...I am not filled with jealousy or whatever some of you call it that I did not wait for the X to come out...I purchased the iX because to me the look is so much better than the X...and is a slight upgrade from the VIII...I knew what I was buying...no buyers remorse...non what so ever...its also nice to know that there is a huge aftermarket support that can make any eVo fast...I think Mitsu went in the wrong direction with the X...but business is business...they will make money for sure as any company they are there to make money...just because the car is a newer model does not make it better...as we have seen with what has happend to the eclipse...and other cars by other manufacturers...but to each is their own...
It seems like some people believe that a new model is always superior to its predecessor ...which in most cases is true...but not always...For example...lets take a look at the new Subie WRX and what is to come of the STi...even though it is going to be the most powerful STi made to date...it still looks like the 04-05 models where the best looking ones of them all...With this said...why can't the same hold true for the eVo X? Seems to me like many of you are just too brand loyal that you are jaded by the fact that the X can or should have been designed more to its eVo roots like the previous eVo models...
Technologically speaking...yes...out of the box it will be faster...should handle better...etc...etc...but the one thing that it won't have right away is the aftermarket support...sure the 4b11 engine has been used in other vehicles...but did tuners actually have time to tinker with it? Not yet...and prolly won't for the next couple of years...maybe sooner...Another BIG this is the warrenty issues...do some of you actually think the majority of eVo X owners will be willing to sacrifice the warrenty over a part that can potentially VOID it...? I don't think so..I'm sure many will do enough mods to keep the warrenty there...the fact still remains the same though...the the 4g63t is a proven motor with tons of aftermarket support...with minimal mods can exceed the power of the 4b11...but lets not focus on that aspects since that will lead to whose got the deeper pockets in the end to mod their eVo's...
It seem as though the X is designed to appeal more to the genral population and a much more mautre demographic instead of the raw enthusiast the previous models were aimed at...with the features such as the SST...now anyone that didn't know how to drive a manual can still have an eVo..."bling bling" interior as oppose to the 8/9...shorter wing...making the car something a 50 year old can drive without looking stupid behind the wheel...along with the resemblence to the Lexus...Audi...Mazda vehicles...etc...etc...These alone with make the car a big seller...BUT not necessarly a huge seller among the eVo 8/9 community...I strongly believe that the 8/9 members will hold on to their eVo's for as long as possible...while "off the street" people will be picking up the new X...After all...if the current owners of the eVo have mixed feeling about the new model...should that say something to
?This is a marketing ploy...the eVo X is not designed an evolution of the eVo iX at all...its designed on the current lancer...as the eVo's 8/9 have been designed on the current year lancer...its the sales of the lancer that allow the existance of the eVo...here in the states...thanks to the hundreds purchasing a grocery getter we can appreciate the eVo's...so thank your grandma or your girlfriend or some douchebag on the street in a lancer as it is because of them we can drive an eVo...
My final thought is this...I am not getting rid of my eVo iX...I am not filled with jealousy or whatever some of you call it that I did not wait for the X to come out...I purchased the iX because to me the look is so much better than the X...and is a slight upgrade from the VIII...I knew what I was buying...no buyers remorse...non what so ever...its also nice to know that there is a huge aftermarket support that can make any eVo fast...I think Mitsu went in the wrong direction with the X...but business is business...they will make money for sure as any company they are there to make money...just because the car is a newer model does not make it better...as we have seen with what has happend to the eclipse...and other cars by other manufacturers...but to each is their own...
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highbredcloud what is your opinion (that the evo x is softer and marketed to a more mature audience) based on???? interviews with the designers? mitsu press info?
please give me a straight answer on that one.
yes you have an opinion and rightfully so, but that doesn't make you right. have you read the interviews with "dr evo" the ACTUAL designer of the evo? where has he ever stated that he wanted a more "mature" car? what parts on the evo x insinuate a more mature car? as per the JDM brochure, the evo looks quite performance oriented to me: forged bbs wheels, 2 piece rotors, bilstein susp, new advan A13A tires, new turbo that spools quicker, SST, S-AWC, weight gain kept to a minimum, chassis rigidity WAY up, etc...
do your opinions have ANY factual basis? or are they your conspiracy theories based on nothing but whatever you think is the truth?
please give me a straight answer on that one.
yes you have an opinion and rightfully so, but that doesn't make you right. have you read the interviews with "dr evo" the ACTUAL designer of the evo? where has he ever stated that he wanted a more "mature" car? what parts on the evo x insinuate a more mature car? as per the JDM brochure, the evo looks quite performance oriented to me: forged bbs wheels, 2 piece rotors, bilstein susp, new advan A13A tires, new turbo that spools quicker, SST, S-AWC, weight gain kept to a minimum, chassis rigidity WAY up, etc...
do your opinions have ANY factual basis? or are they your conspiracy theories based on nothing but whatever you think is the truth?
highbredcloud what is your opinion (that the evo x is softer and marketed to a more mature audience) based on???? interviews with the designers? mitsu press info?
please give me a straight answer on that one.
yes you have an opinion and rightfully so, but that doesn't make you right. have you read the interviews with "dr evo" the ACTUAL designer of the evo? where has he ever stated that he wanted a more "mature" car? what parts on the evo x insinuate a more mature car? as per the JDM brochure, the evo looks quite performance oriented to me: forged bbs wheels, 2 piece rotors, bilstein susp, new advan A13A tires, new turbo that spools quicker, SST, S-AWC, weight gain kept to a minimum, chassis rigidity WAY up, etc...
do your opinions have ANY factual basis? or are they your conspiracy theories based on nothing but whatever you think is the truth?
please give me a straight answer on that one.
yes you have an opinion and rightfully so, but that doesn't make you right. have you read the interviews with "dr evo" the ACTUAL designer of the evo? where has he ever stated that he wanted a more "mature" car? what parts on the evo x insinuate a more mature car? as per the JDM brochure, the evo looks quite performance oriented to me: forged bbs wheels, 2 piece rotors, bilstein susp, new advan A13A tires, new turbo that spools quicker, SST, S-AWC, weight gain kept to a minimum, chassis rigidity WAY up, etc...
do your opinions have ANY factual basis? or are they your conspiracy theories based on nothing but whatever you think is the truth?