Lol how much do you think the 135i wieghs? Just curious.

 

hey this guy can predict the future your like nostradamus

 

heated seats, drool....

 

at least there is a reason for that, V8 and not V6

 

on the BMW brochure it says the 135i weighs 1,560kg (or 3438 lbs)

 

+1

The CT9A platform was pleanty heavy enough. Now this one is even heavier. Overall I'm sure the X is going to be a great car. I'm skeptical it will posess the same tossability and raw feel that originally attracted a lot of us to the VIII or IX though. I'm hoping the new STI will fill the void.

 

Correct weight (wrong on previous brochure) for 135i is 3373#(3384 for auto trans)

 

i just ordered my phantom black evo X MR premium yesterday! i so excited!

Cry me a river guys! the car is 200lbs heavier wop de doo! 3/4 of you guys complaining about weight the of the car probaly weights 200lb or more. if you want to lose weight run on tead mill and stop eating so much fast food. i dont think 200lbs is going to make a big difference on a street car. If your going to race with the car, just gut the car. If the car was 200lbs lighter eveyone would be winning and growning like a little girl and complaint that the car is too noisey, or the car has too much body roll, or it does not have navagation, or it does not have a sun roof, or it does not have yaw contol, or it does not have leather seats, or it does not have 9 air bags. all these new luxery items adds weight. BOO HOO. its just 200lbs! your average american weights over 200lbs.

 

It is OVER 300 lbs heavier. Even compared to the heavier IX MR with the 6 spd. And if you don't think that is going to make a difference in handling, acceleration, or breaking drivetrain parts when modded then you're on crack.

I have no idea why anyone would buy an Evo to NOT go fast. For the money there are many better looking cars that offer better amenities. The Evo is the fastest, most nimble bang for the buck, or at least it was.

I *may* be a bit biased here because I owned an Audi S4, which was quite a porker at 3700 lbs. The weight made it handle so poorly I sold it and bought the Evo.

 

Wow, just wow. 3517Lbs to 3594Lbs. Honestly I don't know what to say about this. I've tried defending this car to death and everytime it is something freakin' new. I can understand that people (including myself) would want this car because it is truly a improvement overall as a vehicle over the IX. For instances the EVO X now has more options such as Navi, cruise controls, and sh*t a butt load of airbags for safety. It now has steering wheel controls for the radio, and the SST tranny looks to be amazing. The interior is improved and there still seems like there is adequate if not better interior space. The suspension on the EVO X compared to the EVO IX is also more improved. Also seems like the driving experience is more mature with, better low end power and a more seamless power delivery. So I can see reasons to buy the EVO X, but as far as the raw performance, the reasons why I feel in love with the EVO, it doesn't seem like this is the focus of Mitsubishi and this current EVO.

 

Please provide link

 

Clearly you don't understand the implications of 'just' 200lbs to a car's dynamics and performance. 200lbs more is basically what an VIII and a IX would weight with an average sized driver plus a full tank of gas. On an X, adding driver and fuel would easily tip the car's weight over 3700lbs! Now I see the real reason why they increased the size of the brakes, it's to compensate for the added weight! Before the stats where released for the X, I really looking forward to the prospects of trading in my VIII for X but now most of the numbers have been released, I think I may look towards the 08 STI or just keep the VIII and start modding.

 

nope, its 255 lbs...the US VIII was 3262 lbs, the CAN X is 3517

 

I hate to say this, but I agree with you on pretty much everything except the 08 STI which as far as looks and hype is just as much of disappointment as the EVO X. Seriously though weight gains for vehicles should be expected, just look at how much the EVO VIII and EVO IX weigh in comparison to the EVO I to EVO III. But usually weight gains are accompanied by a substantial increase in power.

So in my opinion since Mitsubishi never rates horsepower accurately, the only way to see the power increase is to look at the torque increase.

EVO III
2780-2800Lbs
228lbs/ft

EVO IV
2970-2990Lbs
260lbs/ft

EVO V and EVO VI
2990-3010Lbs
274lbs/ft

EVO VII
3170-3200Lbs
282lbs/ft

Now here is where it gets tricky, US spec vehicles are different than the way they rate vehicles in Japan.

USDM EVO VIII
3200-3260Lbs
273lbs/ft

USDM EVO IX
3220-3300Lbs
289lbs/ft

USDM EVO X
3520-3600Lbs
300lbs/ft or 311lbs/ft???

So here is the problem, in the United States we are so use to seeing a cars rated horsepower to see if it has indeed gained power from generation to generation, but you have to examine the history of Mitsubishi and the EVO model to see how to tell the true power increase of the car. Never look at horsepower ratings, because Mitsubishi just doesn't rate Horsepower accurately. Look at the torque to determine true power gains. In all honesty we in the America have such a short history with EVO, that we assume weight gains and etc. is a new trend with Mitsubishi, when in reality this has happend before. For example I could only imagine the anger EVO V and EVO VI owners had when the much heavier and only slightly more powerful EVO VII came out. Despite this the EVO model continued and still gained popularity and the EVO VII went onto the EVO VIII and eventually the EVO IX in which many of us consider the best EVO ever. So what I am saying, is yes the EVO X is vastily different than the EVO IX, but eventually the EVO as far as performance will get better and better with the EVO XI and EVO XII and then the EVO XIII or later model will come out and we will play this haterade game again.

 

because there was something in common between the evo I to evo IX, the 4G63 DNA which the X doesn't have. It may be the best evo there is but it is not a "purist" evo anymore.