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SST VS Manual - which one do you want?

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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SST VS Manual - which one do you want?

Hey guys,

I'm a long time DSM guy, I still own a GVR4 and recently sold my Eclipse GSX that ran 11.9@117.

I am currently looking for a new car, Love the look of the new EVO, and am intrigued with the SST. After selling my GSX I bought a Lexus IS350 and loved the performance of the car (13.2@104.9((stock)) but hated the restrictions Lexus enforces, so I sold it after a year. The IS350 really shifted quickly. I really thought it shifted well. Never did it do anything "weird" to me.

So here I am looking at the EVO and even though the 20yr old in me wants the 5 speed, the 33 yr old that is me, knows that the SST will be a better daily driver for those traffic jams and normal errand runs.

So who here is going to put there trust in a new Mitsu tranny?

I can tell you from countless years of DSM experience, the manual trannies always have shifting/disengagment issues at higher rpms.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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If you can't wait until Feb (that's the earliest date I've heard for the MR to arrive) to test-drive the SST, go visit your local Audi dealer and take a DSG-equipped car for a drive. The DSG and SST are pretty much the same tranny. You'll get an idea if you like it or not.

As for putting "trust" in a new Mitsu tranny, there have been articles posted about Mitsu already having issues with SST which could potentially delay the release in the US. I'm too lazy and hung over right now to post links to them. You'll find them if you search. Mitsu, unlike Audi, doesn't have years of experience with a dual-clutch tranny. Audi had years of racing experience before bringing the tranny to their regular cars. With Mitsu not having past experience with this tranny, I wouldn't want to be a first-year guinea pig. I'd wait until year two, let them get all the kinks worked out. But that's just me.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Shifting keeps the driving fun. I'm with the 5 speed.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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I drive everyday in traffic with a manual. Big deal, use 2nd gear. I've never met a tranny that couldnt start off in 2nd.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
I can tell you from countless years of DSM experience, the manual trannies always have shifting/disengagment issues at higher rpms.
This new manual is supposed to be "revised" and does have extra syncros in 4th and 5th gear. Most reviews were very positive with regards to shifter action and feel. Maybe Mitsu has finally got it right this time. Listen to the 20yr old - stay manual .

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I drive everyday in traffic with a manual. Big deal, use 2nd gear. I've never met a tranny that couldnt start off in 2nd.
Couldn't agree more .
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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MT for me...paddle shifters looks like a headache when you need to do clutch swaps.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Maybe you missed this Poll with 283 responses: Would you buy a EVO X with the DSG? @ https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Maybe you missed this Poll with 283 responses: Would you buy a EVO X with the DSG? @ https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll
I guess I did. I performed a search for the term "poll" and didn't see it. Thanks!
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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A better vehicle to test drive to get a feel for DSG is the 2.0T GTI. Shifts are impressively fast and the different modes allow for shifts to be held until they are needed, both upshifts and downshifts. For me, I still felt very disconnected from the car and prefer the 5 spd MT.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by xtnct
Maybe you missed this Poll with 283 responses: Would you buy a EVO X with the DSG? @ https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll
That poll's almost a year old. A new one may get different results now that people have read some reviews and have technical data from MMC to base their chioces on.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by adambl03
If you can't wait until Feb (that's the earliest date I've heard for the MR to arrive) to test-drive the SST, go visit your local Audi dealer and take a DSG-equipped car for a drive. The DSG and SST are pretty much the same tranny. You'll get an idea if you like it or not.

As for putting "trust" in a new Mitsu tranny, there have been articles posted about Mitsu already having issues with SST which could potentially delay the release in the US. I'm too lazy and hung over right now to post links to them. You'll find them if you search. Mitsu, unlike Audi, doesn't have years of experience with a dual-clutch tranny. Audi had years of racing experience before bringing the tranny to their regular cars. With Mitsu not having past experience with this tranny, I wouldn't want to be a first-year guinea pig. I'd wait until year two, let them get all the kinks worked out. But that's just me.
Actually, Audi doesn't make that tranny, it's sourced from a company that actually patented that technology, and mitsu had the same company that supplies audi's dual clutch tranny make their's. Built, of course, to mitsu's standards and specs, but, fwiw, worrying about mitsu having problems with such a radical tranny design shouldn't really be a concern, because they aren't making it. And, the 5 speed is pretty well perfected by now, and the new one is supposed to be stronger and smoother than ever.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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stay with the 5 speed, to me it makes the sports car a sports car, it makes it more fun to drive daily driver or other wise, good luck either way
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Wow, we look split right down the middle. Pretty cool!
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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I am starting to lean towards GSR, but the improved interior of the MR is very tempting. I hate mitsubishi.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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i would choose the SST. First off you won't need to swap clutches like you would on a manual because they engage much smoother and will get less wear thanks to the computer controlling it. It is quicker in shifting making it an overall faster car, the only down side is... we don't know how much power it will hold and upgrades for the clutch packs won't come cheap
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