Sad....just SAD

 

I think that many members of the automotive press are far to willing to accept that this added weight seen in many new cars is a direct result of a more rigid chassis. I often question just how rigid it needs to be in the first place. We all know that a solid 10 foot x 4 foot x 5 foot block of lead is pretty ridig, but no one YET seems to be making a car with this design.

How come only Lotus and Audi have released the weight of their chassis? The Elise chassis weights 150 pounds, I believe the R8 is close to 250. Are we to believe that the EVO chassis weighs 700 pounds?

That's it, I will get off my soap box!

 

But it makes sense though. While good for handling, the outgoing Evos were TERRIBLE as far as safety goes, especially compared to Subarus, so this was definitely a concern of Mitsubishi that they considered a priority since I'm sure it drove some potential customers away not just due to safety but also the crazy insurance fees. Also, the car did grow a bit, so some of the weight is there too.

 

You make a fair point. However, if you read enough reviews you see that journalists and engineers always claim that the weight gain is related to increases in stiffness, yet NO numberical data is provided to support this deduciton. NONE, ever. Case in point, check out post #28 with the address: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=310634&page=2

It is the same old B.S.

The two notable exceptions are the cars I mentioned and a review of the McLaren SLR from Mercedes.

The new EVO really needs a sub 10 lb/1 hp ratio to live up to the reputation of a performance machine. I question the value of a 40K (nearly) 291 hp car that runs 14 second 1/4 miles and is touted as a halo car. You can buy a 500 hp 2200 lb cobra replica for around 40K taht will pull 1.0 G and run 4.0 second 0-60s and has side exhaust to boot! Of course you wouldn't have a roof, but who needs that anyway?

 

New marketing strategy + stricter emissions laws + safety regulations (5 more airbags) = a more mature, friendly and civilized big fat pig.

Authors of articles like this forget that the basic nature of an Evo is to be a wild, unrefined, loud, in-your-face machine whose only care in the world is speed and handling

I still can't believe that you can't buy a new Evo MR with stick, at least in the short-term

 

The funny thing about how fat the Evo got, is that the new STI (while being on ugly SOB) didn't gain much weight (only +22lbs from 2007)...and it has to meet all the same safety regulations and it has all those wonderful "creature comforts" that the Evo X has. Just proves that you can keep the weight down if the engineers put their minds to it. Mitsu's engineers just missed the mark when they designed the new Lancer chassis. Did you know that the base Lancer weighs just short of 3000lbs? That's ridiculous.

 

I'm not an engineer, but I'm guessing the new Evo / Lancer has grown substantially in size while the new STi and shrunk? Too lazy to check up the articles which point to that, but I think that's what I've seen. So if the STi has become smaller and a little bit heavier, it stands to reason that the Evo X would have become considerably heavier. Ok, fine... MUCH heavier. I still don't understand how the US Evo X is like 200 lb heavier than the JDM equivalent.

 

i knew it wasnt really gonna be that much better... go gsr!

 

yeah....what exactly is the difference?....probably a bigger gas tank and some other things...any ideas?

 

Stricter crash standards = needs more metal to pass them.

 

now if they make fq versions of the X like fq340, fq360, fq400 or the MR(their ultimate evo not to mistaken to the US IX MR or the upcoming X MR) then it will be a diffrent story. the new X looks like the evo VIII 260 when it initially hit the UK shores.

 

^ Also keep in mind that the UK won't immediately see any FQs with the TC-SST since RalliArt is still testing their durability. They should still be good cars though.

 

According to that article...its a sad, sad new chapter for the EVOLUTION. Looks like the suby guys might get their chance to have the upper hand for the first time ever...although it still is too early to really tell.

 

How do you explain the new STi weighing just a little more than the last one? Mitsubishi gave us a (relative) joke of a car and I'm not about to support it with my dollar. I like cars, not manufacturers and I'm more than happy to leave the X to those who want cruise control and an automatic transmission. Please excuse the bits of vomit on the screen.

...looking forward to the Evo XI...

 

+ Eleventy Billion . This is what the Evo represented to me and was the reason I wanted one so badly.

Right there with you brother. This X is looking to be a sad excuse for what the Evo should have been.