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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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I could really give a sh*t about the SST's time as I would never consider owning one, but the 14.0 quarter for the 5MT is really, really, pathetic. The JDM IX ran a 12.8 and USDM IX ran 13.2. Assuming their weight gains to be similar, that means the USDM X 5MT will be a low 14 sec. car... .

I understand the Evo was never "meant" to be a drag car, but the bottom-line is that straight line acceleration is important to most people, including myself. There is an allure in knowing that you can beat cars that cost twice as much in the straights and demolish them in the twisties - its getting difficult to say that now.

The original allure of the Evo is fading fast. Its a pricey pig that seems to have lost its way in the desperate attempt to gain market share from loyal Euro buyers by adding things that should never be in an Evo and subracting items that should. FTL.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Canexican
I could really give a sh*t about the SST's time as I would never consider owning one, but the 14.0 quarter for the 5MT is really, really, pathetic. The JDM IX ran a 12.8 and USDM IX ran 13.2. Assuming their weight gains to be similar, that means the USDM X 5MT will be a low 14 sec. car... .

I understand the Evo was never "meant" to be a drag car, but the bottom-line is that straight line acceleration is important to most people, including myself. There is an allure in knowing that you can beat cars that cost twice as much in the straights and demolish them in the twisties - its getting difficult to say that now.

The original allure of the Evo is fading fast. Its a pricey pig that seems to have lost its way in the desperate attempt to gain market share from loyal Euro buyers by adding things that should never be in an Evo and subracting items that should. FTL.
Amen!!
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Actually the ix was a GSR (5 speed) model not an MR, the JDM MR is faster than the JDM GSR so it could have been worse.
all jdm gsr's are 6 spd
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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all jdm gsr's are 6 spd
Your right it was a 6spd
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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it's not slow. it's not a drag car. around a race track it'll beat the IX. it's just not faster in a str8 line...personally though, i think it would have been a good idea to introduce a car that beats the previous model in EVERY facet of performance.
they did a test on that in a magazine i read comparing the X and IX to see which one is still king and the ix beat the x by 2 secounds around the track and alittle less than 1 sec. in the 1/4, it was car and driver but i can't remember the name.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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all jdm gsr's are 6 spd
no they are not. there are RS 5 speeds and 6speeds
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Canexican
I could really give a sh*t about the SST's time as I would never consider owning one, but the 14.0 quarter for the 5MT is really, really, pathetic. The JDM IX ran a 12.8 and USDM IX ran 13.2. Assuming their weight gains to be similar, that means the USDM X 5MT will be a low 14 sec. car... .

I understand the Evo was never "meant" to be a drag car, but the bottom-line is that straight line acceleration is important to most people, including myself. There is an allure in knowing that you can beat cars that cost twice as much in the straights and demolish them in the twisties - its getting difficult to say that now.

The original allure of the Evo is fading fast. Its a pricey pig that seems to have lost its way in the desperate attempt to gain market share from loyal Euro buyers by adding things that should never be in an Evo and subracting items that should. FTL.
the JDM IX has done 12.6, USDM IX can do 12.7-12.8 bone stock.

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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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i used to be one of those "let's wait and see, and i bet the X will be better than the IX" guys... but the more info i see about the new car the more it seems like mitsu ****ed up. i HATE the fact that the EVO and Lancer look damn near identical. the fact that it's slower than the IX is also a big **** up. yeah, they made it heavy, but why the hell didn't they just give it more power to compensate? a good 350-360hp woulda been great. it used to be able to slaughter cars costing 2-3 times as much, now it'll be slower than cars the same price an likely some cheaper coming in the next couple years. that's ****in sad.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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^Yea 360hp stock (with warranty) 34-39k I would be all over it !!!!!
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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They tested the X aginst the IX here at Reno Fernly Raceway.. The X got spanked around the track by the IX. Even the mitsu reps said it was sad.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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They tested the X aginst the IX here at Reno Fernly Raceway.. The X got spanked around the track by the IX. Even the mitsu reps said it was sad.
Sad indeed
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by billyblonco
13.6 for the JDM SST! I guess the USDM SST will be around 14 sec?
x = slow..


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...test_data.html
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ODUB
no they are not. there are RS 5 speeds and 6speeds
i didnt say that all evo 9's were 6 spds, i said the gsr's were (correcting the other post that said jdm gsr's were 5 spd like USDM 9's)
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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well i just watched the BMI race between the EVO IX and X...sad. the EVO X just got it's *** handed to it. it did show faster cornering speeds in some places against both the STi and the EVO IX, but it looked like a 350Z on the str8's.

what's sad is that from a roll, these things are slower than Z's and S2000's now, so those two cars would make up a lot of ground on it on the str8's. mitsu better do something about the power in the next couple years.

it's sad because you see cars like the GTR making huge leaps and bounds in performance (and price), but at least the new price is justified because the car is an absolute beast. but the EVO's taking steps backwards in performance, while making advances in places that no one who will actually buy the car cares about in the first place. i've always hated mitsubishi because they are idiots and make ****ty cars. i still believe that. the EVO series up until now was the only thing i liked about them. now they've ****ed that up too.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ODUB

what's sad is that from a roll, these things are slower than Z's and S2000's now, so those two cars would make up a lot of ground on it on the str8's. mitsu better do something about the power in the next couple years.
Yep. If we're talkin' about roll racing, a lot of cars will hang with/beat the X.....Neon SRT-4, Caliber SRT-4, Cobalt SS, Mazdaspeed 3. Heck, they have a chance from a stop too.
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