Evo X Review: "The Inevitable Evolution"
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I have yet to drive the IX's a little hard yet, or the X either. Actually none of the people i've sold them to are compairing it to their own car. Its like a totally different car to them it seems.
And using so much technology to control a car i think is overrated. Do the WRC champs use ALL the same controls, or just certian ones or a different system all together. I know they have LSD's, but there's many many many configurations for them
I did some research and completely got lost with what i was getting at before.
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make it clear from my side , i do like the X. But i do like many cars . Why i picked the EVO before over them? Lets face it, the 35K price you can get many other cars or little more up untill $42k.. So the money wasn't really the issue. The big thing was i needed a RALLY car.I need a pure performance car, i need a raw car.
I'm not interested 650w music- navigation-automatic tranny-HID-7 airbags-ABS etc. I leave them for others. But seems to me, my options running out with the EVO X. So i might turn around and go for Exige. Something is more driver required car. I 'm not hating the X at all. Just looks to me starts falling in the "other cars category."
Better then IX ? Yes . Looking better yes. Who cares? It"s lost the heritage for me right now. But there is the future ,where it can prove me wrong./i hope/ Besides the Evo was always the detuned race car not the otherway around... Like the STI.
I'm not interested 650w music- navigation-automatic tranny-HID-7 airbags-ABS etc. I leave them for others. But seems to me, my options running out with the EVO X. So i might turn around and go for Exige. Something is more driver required car. I 'm not hating the X at all. Just looks to me starts falling in the "other cars category."
Better then IX ? Yes . Looking better yes. Who cares? It"s lost the heritage for me right now. But there is the future ,where it can prove me wrong./i hope/ Besides the Evo was always the detuned race car not the otherway around... Like the STI.
This debate of whether the X is an improvement over the 8/9 is pretty interesting, but I think most of you (on both sides) are missing the point (and yes I have driven both cars). Sure, it’s true that the X is a little heavier and slower around the track, it’s also true that the 8/9 isn’t as plush or as high-tech as the X; but in the end, none of these things really are the deciding factor, and that’s why there will never be a definitive answer to “which is best” no matter how many track tests you put them through.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
This debate of whether the X is an improvement over the 8/9 is pretty interesting, but I think most of you (on both sides) are missing the point (and yes I have driven both cars). Sure, it’s true that the X is a little heavier and slower around the track, it’s also true that the 8/9 isn’t as plush or as high-tech as the X; but in the end, none of these things really are the deciding factor, and that’s why there will never be a definitive answer to “which is best” no matter how many track tests you put them through.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
I think you guys miss the point though. It's really not the evo that grew up, it's the lancer. Look at the new corolla's, civic, etc... They're all refined, offer good creature comforts and grew up compared to their predecessors. The evo x got all this pretty much by default. For the new lancer to compete it had to grow up, hence so does the evo. Plus, theres a good chance an RS version will come out for those who want a more "raw" evo. By the way, have you driven a new evo yet? If you haven't, then I suggest you keep quiet. I had a lightly modded 06 STi, and the second I drove the EVO X, I handed over my keys and walked away an evo owner. I find myself 10X more passionate over this car then anything I've ever owned (2 STI's 04 and 06, RX8). A car is about the overall experience it gives the driver. Not specs on a sheet of paper. I would have a hard time believing someone could flat out dislike the car after driving it.
Well i own the VI -VIII - IX just for the record. So i can compare to the previous one's. And does the X go away from its roots./ Being the "race car on the street/ Its bad? That is personal reference. To make this car race ready needs more job then any other before. Just like the article said . The previous versions where detuned race cars. And the X is tuned up street car. I think you will get this one.
But i think it has a lots of potential , and with some work on it will be an amazing race car.
right now i'm breakin in , and that is the most boring time ever
Maybe that is why i'm frustrated...
Last edited by Robevo RS; Apr 15, 2008 at 03:33 PM.
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This debate of whether the X is an improvement over the 8/9 is pretty interesting, but I think most of you (on both sides) are missing the point (and yes I have driven both cars). Sure, it’s true that the X is a little heavier and slower around the track, it’s also true that the 8/9 isn’t as plush or as high-tech as the X; but in the end, none of these things really are the deciding factor, and that’s why there will never be a definitive answer to “which is best” no matter how many track tests you put them through.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
Well that was a good read. To bad it's basically a bunch of BS wrapped in articulate writing. Doesn't cut it as a sports car? Buddy please, the X will embarrass just about every "sports car" in it's price range, in just about every performance aspect. And just like the rest of the ignoramos (ya I made that word up), you don't realize it's not trying to be a luxury car. The Evo became more refined by default. Mitsu can't make all its money off evo's. The lancer had to step up the refinement to compete with other cars in its segment. So enjoy your car, it's a fantastic machine. Just don't knock the X because this is what the general public is asking for.
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well i have a X. Just because you jump from the sti and RX8 to the evo, you can tell me, be quiet?
Well i own the VI -VIII - IX just for the record. So i can compare to the previous one's. And does the X go away from its roots./ Being the "race car on the street/ Its bad? That is personal reference. To make this car race ready needs more job then any other before. Just like the article said . The previous versions where detuned race cars. And the X is tuned up street car. I think you will get this one.
But i think it has a lots of potential , and with some work on it will be an amazing race car.
right now i'm breakin in , and that is the most boring time ever Maybe that is why i'm frustrated...
Well i own the VI -VIII - IX just for the record. So i can compare to the previous one's. And does the X go away from its roots./ Being the "race car on the street/ Its bad? That is personal reference. To make this car race ready needs more job then any other before. Just like the article said . The previous versions where detuned race cars. And the X is tuned up street car. I think you will get this one.
But i think it has a lots of potential , and with some work on it will be an amazing race car.
right now i'm breakin in , and that is the most boring time ever
Maybe that is why i'm frustrated...Well that was a good read. To bad it's basically a bunch of BS wrapped in articulate writing. Doesn't cut it as a sports car? Buddy please, the X will embarrass just about every "sports car" in it's price range, in just about every performance aspect. And just like the rest of the ignoramos (ya I made that word up), you don't realize it's not trying to be a luxury car. The Evo became more refined by default. Mitsu can't make all its money off evo's. The lancer had to step up the refinement to compete with other cars in its segment. So enjoy your car, it's a fantastic machine. Just don't knock the X because this is what the general public is asking for.
If you own one then why such negative comments toward the car? Buyers remorse maybe? I completely understand the cars roots, and I can see why the die hard fans could be somewhat disappointed. My only point was the evo grew up because the lancer did. By the way congrats on the X, sorry for the misunderstanding. I just figured someone wouldn't talk down about something they just purchased. Good luck with it, I'm sure you'll be very happy once it's broken in.
I do understand the new comers hype and so on. But every evolution is an evolution. Matter affect all of them is awesome they own way.
This is my opinion. And that is why some call me hater. I see the good parts and the bad ones. Can you imagine if nobody point out the bad ones? We would be ending up like a BMW forum or the vettes....
The X is a big deal here since this is a first evo in the states equipped with the AYC. And when you read the article, you can see clearly the writer was blown away because of the AYC.
Now ,if you pick any non us evo with AYC the difference would be way less, and there for the hype too. Just my observation.
This debate of whether the X is an improvement over the 8/9 is pretty interesting, but I think most of you (on both sides) are missing the point (and yes I have driven both cars). Sure, it’s true that the X is a little heavier and slower around the track, it’s also true that the 8/9 isn’t as plush or as high-tech as the X; but in the end, none of these things really are the deciding factor, and that’s why there will never be a definitive answer to “which is best” no matter how many track tests you put them through.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
It doesn’t matter how you feel about the car; what matters is how driving the car makes you feel about yourself.
For me, the attraction in driving my 8 is that I can be rebel; I can be the in-your-face underdog – I can go to any track event, stick out my middle finger at all the fancy-***, grown-up, Porsche/BMW/Corvette/Exotic fools and say “yeah I know my car is ugly, but guess what? It can go places where your 6 figure pile of fufu-shishi can’t, and even on the track where you can drive, it can still beat you to a bloody pulp and make you go home crying for your mommy!” Yes, I’m a juvenile, immature (almost 40 year old) punk who enjoys that kind of thing.
It’s true that my car looks like a boxy grocery getter that’s been fed too many steroids, its transfer case grenades itself into shrapnel every 20,000 miles, the paint peals worse than my grany’s wallpaper, and the interior rattles like my head after a night of too much of everything, but I DON’T CARE. I’m bad. I kick ***. I grin from ear to ear every time another frustrated Porsche driver has to swallow all of his “sophistication and refinement” and asks me for a ride in my 8 because he just can’t keep up with it and wants to know why.
Now let’s talk about the X. This car feels like it was designed by a marketing committee; they sat around a table and thought to themselves “all those guys that bought an Evo when they were in their 20s and 30s are now getting close to their 40s, making good money, and they go off buying M3s and Caymans. We oughtta compete in that market.” So they made the Evo wear a fancier suit, and cut off its ***** (just a little bit). Made it “better”. Driving the X makes me feel like the 20-some year old wearing a polyester suit and ducking into a boardroom meeting asking “is it okay if I join you?”. In contrast, driving the 8 makes me feel like the guy who runs the place, walking into that same boardroom telling all the foppy suits to drop the fancy jackets, roll up their sleeves, and do some god-damn work for a change.
The Evo 8/9 isn’t sophisticated or refined – that’s the whole point. The X is a wanna-be , watered down, marketing-focus-group-bs compromise, that doesn’t quite make the cut as a luxury car or a sports car. It aims to be something that it isn’t.
It’s not honest, and that’s just not me.
lol you are probably pissed because you bought a 36K MR with no AYC
. Your magic did wonders for my car, it will be great to see what you can do with the X 
On the whole 8/9 vs X thing: I love and have had experience in all of them. One of my all time favorites is a 9 MR. Given the opportunity, I would take both a IX and x MR. The argument is not so cut and dry for either, and the people here making the argument that it is cut and dry seem either to not have experience in the other, or are of a more extreme standpoint of what they want in a car. For the second group, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it probably means that your personal bias due to your needs makes it unfair to comment on the other. For the first group, looking at the cars on paper on gives you an idea of whats going on. The reality is something you need to experience.
Personally, I am not an evo 8 gsr guy. Just not for me which is why I rarely speak of the car. I do understand its a great car and perfect match for a lot of people. So just think about these things before posting a condemning viewpoint about EITHER generation. Also keep in mind this is not Evo vs STI or anything...we are talking about all evos. We should not be so polarized.
One last point. A big complaint of the new car has been its added weight. This is also the reason for decreased acceleration times. This added weight is mainly due to increased saftey, mostly mandated. Not just something they threw in for the hell of it. So keep in mind that this is something they have had to overcome that was inevitable
Personally, I am not an evo 8 gsr guy. Just not for me which is why I rarely speak of the car. I do understand its a great car and perfect match for a lot of people. So just think about these things before posting a condemning viewpoint about EITHER generation. Also keep in mind this is not Evo vs STI or anything...we are talking about all evos. We should not be so polarized.
One last point. A big complaint of the new car has been its added weight. This is also the reason for decreased acceleration times. This added weight is mainly due to increased saftey, mostly mandated. Not just something they threw in for the hell of it. So keep in mind that this is something they have had to overcome that was inevitable