im guessing 4wd and price

 

Lets forget the mag reviews and wait till we can see what tuners do with them.

I mean who buys these types of cars and keeps them completely stock anyway? Its really modded vs modded that we want to see and we'll see which one comes out on top in the next couple months when vids start trickling in.

The mag reviews have been all over the place so I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

 

wait evo is faster than sti????

 

EVO III RS was better than EVO IV RS interms of track speed, bone stock.
EVO VI TME RS was better than EVO VII RS interms of track speed, bone stock.
EVO IX MR RS will be better than EVO X RS interms of track speed, bone stock.

These are all in JDM RS, so none of them will have AYC or anything like A/C etc.

In the hands of pro's, AYC won't make any difference for track time, it'll be more of a safety net for them, but at the cost of additional weight.

 

Yeah even one of the guys off of Best Motoring said that AYC was more of a safety feature but made the car faster in the hands of an inexperienced driver.

Not exact words but along those lines.

 

Not true. On Best Motoring "The Evo Strikes Back", one of the modded cars does not have SAYC, and its the slowest. The other drivers mention that his car would be much faster with AYC. Even the full on tarmac racecar had SAYC.

 

No the Best Motoring vid I saw the guy said it was clearly for safety first and foremost.

How many BM vids have there been with the X being driven?

Your not in denial that you got rid of your IX if you did are you?

 

I just watched it again; its here on my bookcase. Watch "The Evo Strikes Back" where they do the trade and drive with the competition cars. I'm talking Evo VIII, not X.

A few parts of the SAWC are for safety, such as the traction and stability control. SAYC is in there too, and that is Super Active Yaw Control; it is100% for performance. If you know anything about Evos, you would know that the USA VIII and IX owners got screwed because we had emissions equipment there instead of the SAYC control mechanism. The UK and Japanese spec IX is quite a bit faster than our counterparts on track because of this.

I don't miss my IX at all minus the lighter curb weight and the material covering the seats. As mods happen, I might miss the 4G63 a lot, but not yet.

Don't take my word for it, drive an X yourself and you'll see.

 

The VIII, IX, and X RS models in Japan and the UK all had SAYC. Don't trust me, trust Mitsubishi: http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...003/15E_22.pdf


Next, "Super Active Yaw Control (SAYC) dramatically improves cornering ability over AYC (as fitted to the Evo VII) and is able to channel almost twice as much torque to the outside rear wheel to control cornering by compensating for tyre adhesion and power distribution. This equates to a power differential between the rear wheels of almost 40%. SAYC acts as a Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system, but redistributing power rather than restricting it increases usable torque by up to six times according to Mitsubishi. ACD and SAYC work harmoniously with each other and are now both controlled by the same computer system, which naturally provides an improvement over the previous discrete control."

This is from: http://carenthusiast.com/roadtests.html?article=166

Noobs. Sheesh.

 

well, if you still have the mentality that "you HAVE to give it a run whenever a "good" run presents itself", then I don't think you are too old in terms of maturity. And by "kids", I mean people who think they know everything about driving by drag racing their 300+ hp EVOs on the streets.

And to be honest, if straight line performance is all you care about, then I can see why you will never learn to appreciate EVO X. But really, if you just use your EVO for drag racing, you are really missing what the car is all about. If you think road racing is too harsh on the car, you can do autox. It's certainly much less intense and harsh on the car, but you will be able to appreciate other aspects of the car rather than just straight line acceleration.

Not trying to defend for the X, as I am disappointed at the weight increase with no power increase too, but I hope in a year or two, Mitsubishi will up the power to make this car accelerates as well as the IX. I was all set on the X until the official specs were out. Hope a lighter version of it will hit the US market too.

 

Aside from all the bickering...

I'm actually impressed with how the R32 did in this test. It's not really in the same class as the Evo/STI. I didn't think it would do as well as it did.

The "rolling 5-60mph" number of the R32 is VERY strong. Only .1 seconds behind the Evo X and a full .6 seconds faster than the STI. The R32 doesn't launch as well because of the DSG tranny, but it still moves for a little VW.

I haven't read the article yet, but I read on a VW forum that the editors were asked it is was their own money, which would they choose and a couple of them chose the R32. Hmmm...

 

Is the article posted on Vortex?
Do you have a link for the entire article? Please?

 

I also would love to read the article if anyone has the link.

 

This is from mitsubishi-motors.co.jp, X RS features:

ACD（アクティブ・センター・ディファレンシャル）
チタンアルミターボチャージャー
5速クロスミッション（5速巡航ギヤタイプ）
パワーステアリング
チルトステアリング
フロントヘリカルLSD
リヤ1.5WAY機械式LSD
フロントストラットタワーバー
フロント15インチベンチレーテッドディスクブレーキ（2ポット）＆リヤ15インチベンチレーテッドディス クブレーキ（1ポット）
センタードアロック
ベンチュリー＆ディフューザー付大型アンダーカバー（フロント）
イグニッションキー抜き忘れ防止ブザー
イモビライザー（国土交通省認可品）
ワンタッチ式パワーウインドウ（全席、セーフティ機構付）
間欠ワイパー（フロント、ミスト付）
トランクリッドオープナー
パンクタイヤ応急修理キット

I see the 1.5 way LSD but where is S-AYC/SAWC?

Bottom line, they come as option in Japan but they are no way standard. All their race car versions dont have AYC.

 

Ok, we understand that a lot of episodes in Best Motoring is fishy and seem staged, but for EVO vs EVO I don't see why they need any staging. So all the ones with RS version which don't have AYC, usually laps over a second faster on 60 second to 90 second tracks. Why? If AYC was that good it should more than enough to make up for the 200 lbs difference (JDM RS is about 200lbs lighter than the GSR counterpart). Oh and please don't give me retarded math like '200/3000lbs is around 6%, 1 sec / 90sec ~~ 1%, so you still gain a lot from AYC', weight and track times don't work that way.