Robevo, what I was saying was that all evos are well set up for road racing; that's really what they're meant for above all else. My point was that the evo x is the better road race car and that the IX is not quite as capable on a road race course, but makes up for it in it's better drag racing abilities. The X has a better chassis, better suspension, better, more advanced AWD system with the AYC and new S-AWC system that better connects all the different handling and braking systems than the 9 ever did, even the J-spec 9 that had ayc. The X is also wider, has wider wheels and tires, and better weight distribution. Robi, from robispec, has already said all of this, so you shouldn't be trying to contest this. It's just the facts, period. The 9, on the other hand, while still an excellent road race car, is a fantastic drag car because of the closed deck, iron block. The X will prove to hold a lot of power, and so far mod for mod makes more power than the 9, but will most likely NOT be able to hold 1000hp like the 4g63 did, therefor the 9 may not be quite as good on a road race course as the X, but it's most likely the better drag car. Why have I had to explain this so many times. No offense man, but I think the reason that you didn't understand this before is because of the language barrier. I mean no offense by this, but your english is not very good, and I think that you have trouble understanding things sometimes NOT because you're stupid, or anything like that, but because you don't understand certain words in the english language. I really hope that this longer, more in depth explanation of my views on the 2 cars clears things up a bit.

 

Nice to see its NOT what others has speculated it to be - lame. Seems like a solid motor to me and should be able to support big power.

 

No im not mental but you come off as a arrogant ***

I was more replying in general and towards your comment that the evos are more built for handling. I'm also trying to show that we have proven the evo 8 and 9 to be very capable also at the drag strip. The evo X needs to prove itself at the track before i jump on the bandwagon like you have. Do me a favor respond to me next time with a little more respect than calling out names or being a dick head. All i was doing was making a friendly conversation toward you nothing more.

 

Awesome job guys Ive followed you since the first first time i came to evom and have always respected what you have accomplished in the evo world.
Looks like the Evo X has allot of potential

 

Interseting you say this but have no proof like LAP TIMES, now dont get me wrong im not saying the 9 is better or X is better. Its just obvious that your a X fan boi maybe you should wait until someone builds a X track car and see what the stop watch says because in the end of all the bull**** thats what matters. And yes I know your going to say well robi said this and that, but he hasent built a X track car either. Im interested to see if what the JDM companies are saying about the sawc is true, that changing the brake pads throws the whole system off. Only time will tell.

 

Look, I'm not trying to be a ********, but your response to my post was strange, as it didn't really correlate to what I was saying. I was making the point that the X has already proved itself to be a better track car, but that it will probably not be as good at drag racing as the 9 is, not without a closed deck block replacement. I apologize that I was unnessesarily rude in my response to you earlier, but please read my posts in their entirety before responding, as this will likely prevent these arguments from happening in the future. Please accept my apology, I really didn't mean to be rude. Cool?

 

Np I'm driving and typing on my phone half the time

 

thats awesome +1

 

here's a video that'll maybe settle the arguement of which one of the two is a better track car, stock for stock:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t4cwQqDTXyY
......for now






.

 

That's an old video, and it doesn't show off the true performance of the car. The x handles and brakes better, the 9 is faster in stock form in the straights, and that track had long straghts. Talk to robi from robi spec and he'll tell you all about how the chassis, suspension, and awd system are superior on the x. I don't have time for this crap.

 

i agree about the brakes, & awd system being superior on the X, that's why i said
........."''''for now", in my last post.

 

Whatever, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. AGP's evo X with nothing but intake, exhaust, mbc and ic pipes ran against their evo 9 fully race prepped car, which has more work done to the motor, had full race spec coilovers, sway bars, strut bars, even a cage. The car weighed in at more than 200 lbs LESS THAN THEIR UNTUNED EVO X ON STOCK SUSPENSION, and the X ran less than 1 second slower. They said that with the same mods the X should kill the 9 on a road race course. So I do have lap times. And btw, don't ever call me a fan boy again. I am nothing of the sort, I am simply defending the facts.

 

yep it did.

 

sorry not to argue, but . That was an 8 not a 9, and we know there is a differences. Later on cleard out it wasn't a full race car. It was a track " prepped " car. Now there is a hughe difference. So when you say keep the facts , then keep it. Matter a fact my car is more race car then what they posted later on there... and i wouldn't call my car a race car. Race prepped, yes.
The fully race car apply for Evasive-AMS- HKS etc. the killing story's will come this summer i'm sure.
So when somebody/not just you/ try to implant that idea for unexperienced guys brain, the fully race evo 8 run only 1 sec faster then the new X untuned + bolt ons and same wheels and tires...

it is falling the category what you dont like .... the fanboy wagon.

 

I think AGP tracked a Evo 8 with 360whp and full race setup suspension with less weight vs their stock suspension Evo 10 putting down 320whp and it was a meer 1 second slower around the track. With equal power it would most likely pull ahead of the 8 with stock suspension. Do the suspension mods and what not and who knows? They probably could of kept up with just suspension mods @ 320whp. Also, they were using same rims+tires I believe.

Anyways, back on topic. What's the exact difference between a Closed deck and an Open deck? Can a closed deck run higher compression? What are the advantages of each? Also, wouldn't a semi closed have the best of both worlds?