My Trackday Impressions
My Trackday Impressions
I got the chance to drive some Evo Xs on the Prodrive Track here in the UK on Thursday but only just got home to give my thoughts. Have taken a few photos and a few (very amateur) vids so thought I would share.
Most of my day was spent in the SST version of the Evo and despite "only" 300ps it still had a nice amount of power and torque for the track. Now for those waiting on the SST box in the US I think those that are interested in it will like it. I didnt want one and I still dont. Thats not because its not a good box, its brilliant. Smooth in the auto and paddle shift modes and very quick but still smooth in the sport and super sport modes. I cant quite express how smooth this is for what is almost an auto box. But thats the problem for me and the reason I dont want it. To some degree, even accelerating to and dropping back down from 100mph plus I didnt feel involved like I do in a manual car. I felt like I was on a Xbox game just pulling up and down on the flappy paddles with no clutch to push and little to do with my gear shift arm. You could almost drive it one handed. I suppose in the City this would be perfect but for me personally I want to feel more involved in the driving.
If you do want the SST though dont let me put you off, as a gear box it is absolutely brilliant
On the track it was so very balanced. Speaking to one of the instructors he said the likes of the Subarus go on the track and absolutely rip the tyres to pieces. They got through plenty of sets on the Evo X too but he said he couldnt believe how well balanced they had made it. The tyres were wearing very evenly unlike previous evos. Everyone was universally impressed with this; drivers, instructors and even the media had very very little to complain about on the X.
I drove the SST on the track and the tight adverse handling course - It performed admirably on both. The SST probably made the tight course much easier than it was because you could keep your hands on the wheel, the instructors were very very good to. The manual would have made a tricky course very tough to do it right. Thoroughly enjoyed it though, I was pretty crap on that one. The trick is to be very smooth and allow the car to do the work. I was far too erratic and heavy footed
After the SST I got to try the FQ360, sadly it was only on the skid pan but OMG To say the power difference was noticeable is a massive understatement. The instructor put his foot down and pinned me to my seat from the outset. And may I add the Leather seats with EvolutionX not only looked amazing but were also firmer than the fabric ones, which I liked! I took it on the skid pan with SAWC on and drove like a God. Totally sideways from one side to the other looking out the side window and bringing it perfectly back in line. Then we turned the first stage off. I hammered it again and within two sideways actions I was facing the way I came with the engine cut out! Turns out the car is awesome and Im retard! Same happened when second stage (AYC) of SAWC was turned off too. But it perfectly demonstrated just how good the new SAWC is in keeping you on the road.
Was a brilliant day and really glad I went on it. Was also very very pleased that I ordered the manual, the phantom black and the 360, all of which make a good car a friggin brilliant one
Will now post up photos and very short videos! Thanks for reading. Will try to answer any questions if anyone has any.
Most of my day was spent in the SST version of the Evo and despite "only" 300ps it still had a nice amount of power and torque for the track. Now for those waiting on the SST box in the US I think those that are interested in it will like it. I didnt want one and I still dont. Thats not because its not a good box, its brilliant. Smooth in the auto and paddle shift modes and very quick but still smooth in the sport and super sport modes. I cant quite express how smooth this is for what is almost an auto box. But thats the problem for me and the reason I dont want it. To some degree, even accelerating to and dropping back down from 100mph plus I didnt feel involved like I do in a manual car. I felt like I was on a Xbox game just pulling up and down on the flappy paddles with no clutch to push and little to do with my gear shift arm. You could almost drive it one handed. I suppose in the City this would be perfect but for me personally I want to feel more involved in the driving.
If you do want the SST though dont let me put you off, as a gear box it is absolutely brilliant
On the track it was so very balanced. Speaking to one of the instructors he said the likes of the Subarus go on the track and absolutely rip the tyres to pieces. They got through plenty of sets on the Evo X too but he said he couldnt believe how well balanced they had made it. The tyres were wearing very evenly unlike previous evos. Everyone was universally impressed with this; drivers, instructors and even the media had very very little to complain about on the X.
I drove the SST on the track and the tight adverse handling course - It performed admirably on both. The SST probably made the tight course much easier than it was because you could keep your hands on the wheel, the instructors were very very good to. The manual would have made a tricky course very tough to do it right. Thoroughly enjoyed it though, I was pretty crap on that one. The trick is to be very smooth and allow the car to do the work. I was far too erratic and heavy footed
After the SST I got to try the FQ360, sadly it was only on the skid pan but OMG To say the power difference was noticeable is a massive understatement. The instructor put his foot down and pinned me to my seat from the outset. And may I add the Leather seats with EvolutionX not only looked amazing but were also firmer than the fabric ones, which I liked! I took it on the skid pan with SAWC on and drove like a God. Totally sideways from one side to the other looking out the side window and bringing it perfectly back in line. Then we turned the first stage off. I hammered it again and within two sideways actions I was facing the way I came with the engine cut out! Turns out the car is awesome and Im retard! Same happened when second stage (AYC) of SAWC was turned off too. But it perfectly demonstrated just how good the new SAWC is in keeping you on the road.
Was a brilliant day and really glad I went on it. Was also very very pleased that I ordered the manual, the phantom black and the 360, all of which make a good car a friggin brilliant one
Will now post up photos and very short videos! Thanks for reading. Will try to answer any questions if anyone has any.
SST on Track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6wcK_51-5o
FQ360 on Skidpan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhFWyGEQI9w
Skidpan SAWC on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByHSGFRmD68
SAWC off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ampuABIC5Pk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ley1h08i7iI
Driver View on skidpan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qr8SM53YZ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6wcK_51-5o
FQ360 on Skidpan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhFWyGEQI9w
Skidpan SAWC on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByHSGFRmD68
SAWC off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ampuABIC5Pk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ley1h08i7iI
Driver View on skidpan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qr8SM53YZ8
Wish they would do something like this here in the States for their loyal customers. I already own a X though, but it would still be nice to thrash somebody else's round the track
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Stupid question: why are Prodrive involved?
.Stupid question: why are Prodrive involved?
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Good review! Thanks for your input! Unfortunately, I feel a lot of people will say the same tired things about the SST..."but it hasn't got a clutch"...let's get passed this people! Again, not bashing your opinion or review, but you go on to say how amazing it is and then to say "but I still don't want one!"? It's like saying..."man I was making out with this supermodel at the bar...it was brilliant, but in the end, I'm gonna go home with the fat chick!" I mean, the SST-style transmission is the future of all transmissions, hate it or love it. Of course, the SST will have it's limitations when it comes to modding, etc. But in reality, there are prolly very few drivers that can shift as fast (and accurately) with a standard manual transmission car. All the people complaining about not feeling the "interaction, clutch, blah, blah, blah" are the same people that will soon realize that, in the next few years, not only will all the future supercars (GTR, BMW M series, Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, etc) use/offer these transmissions, but "regular" sedans/cars will as well (look at the Lancer GTS). I'm looking forward to being an early adopter and jumping on the bandwagon as soon as the Evo X MR is available. Again, good review, thanks for the stand-still pics!
Prodrive, if you dont know, develop cars. They do most of their work for Aston Martin and Subaru. They also have a great track facility http://www.prodrive.com/level2.html?id=22
Because of this a lot of manufacturers, particularly of fast cars use their facilities to Launch their cars in the UK to show them off a bit. Have to say it worked a treat, I cant wait for mine to arrive
Because of this a lot of manufacturers, particularly of fast cars use their facilities to Launch their cars in the UK to show them off a bit. Have to say it worked a treat, I cant wait for mine to arrive
Good review! Thanks for your input! Unfortunately, I feel a lot of people will say the same tired things about the SST..."but it hasn't got a clutch"...let's get passed this people! Again, not bashing your opinion or review, but you go on to say how amazing it is and then to say "but I still don't want one!"? It's like saying..."man I was making out with this supermodel at the bar...it was brilliant, but in the end, I'm gonna go home with the fat chick!" I mean, the SST-style transmission is the future of all transmissions, hate it or love it. Of course, the SST will have it's limitations when it comes to modding, etc. But in reality, there are prolly very few drivers that can shift as fast (and accurately) with a standard manual transmission car. All the people complaining about not feeling the "interaction, clutch, blah, blah, blah" are the same people that will soon realize that, in the next few years, not only will all the future supercars (GTR, BMW M series, Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, etc) use/offer these transmissions, but "regular" sedans/cars will as well (look at the Lancer GTS). I'm looking forward to being an early adopter and jumping on the bandwagon as soon as the Evo X MR is available. Again, good review, thanks for the stand-still pics!
if the MR will make safe 360-400 whp , would be the best Evo ever.
I would jump into it a next year. But i want to wait untill clears out, how they will tune the Tranny ECU , and the costs.
I dont mind the SMG tranys. I like them.
I would jump into it a next year. But i want to wait untill clears out, how they will tune the Tranny ECU , and the costs.
I dont mind the SMG tranys. I like them.
UK confirmed that they are testing the SST box for about a year to make sure it can handle the extra BHP. He said "they are Japanese, thats what they do!"If you like flappy paddles then you will love the SST no doubt about it
With regards to the ECU, I hears a rumour that you have to ring
for a PIN code and once you have used it to alter the ECU then the warranty on the engine is void! Dont know how true it is or if its only in UK
well i will modify it anyway, so my warranty will be gone before i know it. 
That is why so important for me how the tranny will handle the abuse. That tranny is very costly
And that is a main reason i'm hanging the X forum as well. I would like to know every details before i buy one. I would like to make sure i will not run into a dead end./money wise/

That is why so important for me how the tranny will handle the abuse. That tranny is very costly

And that is a main reason i'm hanging the X forum as well. I would like to know every details before i buy one. I would like to make sure i will not run into a dead end./money wise/
























