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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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i don't think that would work out too well, if you want an evo for street use then you get the GSR for power windows, a radio, and sound deterring materials .
I would buy an RS to race only, but most RS buyers are street drivers, so ABS makes sense there also.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 04:22 AM
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i think one reason the RS will not come here:
i remember 2 years back ,this forum have numerous thread when they called the RS a poor guys evo...
But today ,the light go up and people realized the purpose of the RS.
So back then the track junkies get the "GSR" and "MR" as a track car ...
Matter a fact, i had many argument about the RS back then.. So i been called wanna be, poor, etc.
Can you imagine if the MMNA brought the real RS here? steel wheels, lancer ES interior, no Brembos, limited to 130mph etc. but the AYC is in it?
would be different ? i don't think so. Also like the Advan rally car in japan the AYC got taken out.

The RS is a base car for real racers ,who are heavily modifying they car, period.
The RS is NOT a DD. That is why don't have such as a ABS. Not because you want to save money.
Now since we got 99% of the JDM evos goodies with the X, i think IF the RS will come it will be a JDM RS or very close.
Whos going to buy it other then selected few ,with that options? Most guys are crying because the evo is noisy....

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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i wouldnt say there isnt a demand........ sure, the ralliart is gonna be priced at what the RS would be, BUT, the ralliart is not an evo! the RS is the most hardcore evo made, and just about every evo built by aftermarket companies have been RS'.... if they brought the RS over, they would have no problem selling them.... i for one am waiting for the X RS
They have had trouble selling every model of Evo they've brought over. The VIII and IX RSs sold horribly. Americans simply don't want stripped down, track-oriented models.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
They have had trouble selling every model of Evo they've brought over. The VIII and IX RSs sold horribly. Americans simply don't want stripped down, track-oriented models.
i wouldn't say sold The RS horribly... I had to wait until they find one for me.
So first i was forced to get the VIII SSL since they couldn't get a RS for me fast enough
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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my dealer told me that the RS is not coming to the states. =\
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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i wouldn't say sold The RS horribly... I had to wait until they find one for me.
So first i was forced to get the VIII SSL since they couldn't get a RS for me fast enough
I would. There is a reason they aren't bringing it back with the X.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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I own an Evo X RS LHD with the tarmac package (Brembo brakes and 18" rims) because that is the only version that the Mitsubishi dealer here in Costa Rica provides. I cannot buy a GSR or MR. I'm really happy with the car and I do love the fact that is light and everything but I would really like ABS.

I've been looking all around and there's been places where they say that the ABS is electronically disabled on the RS.
For example: http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/clas...tails&id=42643
It makes sense since the car has all the wheel speed sensors on and an electronic pump similar to the one on a GSR or MR. The dealer here (which I don't trust very much) tells me that there's no way to activate the ABS, but told me the same thing when I took the car to them to activate the OEM stereo and bluetooth. Fortunatelly I found some instructions on how to do and gave those to them and magically afterwards they could activate it.

Any of you know if the ABS can be activated and how to do it?

I would really appreciate some help!!!

Thanks
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
RS have no ABS. With the big brake kit wont work anyway
why it's not going to work with the big brake kit?
I saw a few EVOs and all of them had the ABS pump installed and the pump said WSS on it, what is that?
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by acastrolee
why it's not going to work with the big brake kit?
I saw a few EVOs and all of them had the ABS pump installed and the pump said WSS on it, what is that?
the RS made for rally, so the big brake kit wont fit on any gravel set up.
/15-16 inch rims/

Also the ABS would defeat the purpose of the RS. The RS made for people like me, But since its it not in the states i had to start with the very basic GSR. /which have an ABS /
The X has a completely different awd system set up, and the ABS is messing it up a big time the X for rally. Basically the biggest draw back to get the X for rally in the US, is the ABS system on it. The X computer reads speed etc from the ABS... /WSS/ So might be they left it there for speed reading. I dont know how they and with or what they build and set up in those cars./ i assume you talking about X RS/ That is one thing we have to look into also. There is no Vehicle speed wire goes in the main ECU like on the older models for an example.

In racing on slicks would be better without abs on tarmac rally, there for circuit races too anyway. We working on to somehow eliminate the brake booster now , i hope it will work out . We successfully eliminated the rear ABS already !
SO i hope soon we can completely eliminate the whole ABS cancer in the car. And the sponge feeling on the brakes.

Rob
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoXCR
I own an Evo X RS LHD with the tarmac package (Brembo brakes and 18" rims) because that is the only version that the Mitsubishi dealer here in Costa Rica provides. I cannot buy a GSR or MR. I'm really happy with the car and I do love the fact that is light and everything but I would really like ABS.

I've been looking all around and there's been places where they say that the ABS is electronically disabled on the RS.
For example: http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/clas...tails&id=42643
It makes sense since the car has all the wheel speed sensors on and an electronic pump similar to the one on a GSR or MR. The dealer here (which I don't trust very much) tells me that there's no way to activate the ABS, but told me the same thing when I took the car to them to activate the OEM stereo and bluetooth. Fortunatelly I found some instructions on how to do and gave those to them and magically afterwards they could activate it.

Any of you know if the ABS can be activated and how to do it?

I would really appreciate some help!!!

Thanks
why we dont swap i send you the whole ABS kit with AYC etc, and you just send me the "lower" class rear difff and ecu without the ABS. how that is sounds for you ? You need more then just a "activation" to get an ABS in your car. There is quiet a few hardware you need. I send you all so you get a whole plug and play set up vs your plug and play RS brake set up. And all the parts you need from the GSR. they are sitting in my basement since 08 anyway

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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Why do RS models in Japan and the rest of the world don't have AYC? The Ralliart is only not an Evo by name. It basically has all the Evo characteristics just less power.
According to other threads on this forum, the AYC system weighs 180lbs, is less reliable than a mechanical limited-slip, and it doesn't actually make the car faster.

One guy said out that the fast time-attack Evos don't have AYC, so I must not be the only person questioning its' value.

My personal experience is that when I'm on an autocross course lasting 60 seconds or more, I go at least .5 sec faster with the ASC turned off. Everyone who's taken their X to a track reports faster lap times with the ASC turned off. SO, that makes me wonder whether the traction control or AYC really make the car faster. If the Evo X RS doesn't come with AYC, then I think that answers my question.
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BluEvo210
According to other threads on this forum, the AYC system weighs 180lbs, is less reliable than a mechanical limited-slip, and it doesn't actually make the car faster.

One guy said out that the fast time-attack Evos don't have AYC, so I must not be the only person questioning its' value.

My personal experience is that when I'm on an autocross course lasting 60 seconds or more, I go at least .5 sec faster with the ASC turned off. Everyone who's taken their X to a track reports faster lap times with the ASC turned off. SO, that makes me wonder whether the traction control or AYC really make the car faster. If the Evo X RS doesn't come with AYC, then I think that answers my question.

Sadly its not.
The ASC has nothing to do with the AYC. The ASC is one link to the S-AWC system.

The AYC is simply an electronically controlled Limited Slip Differential. Much more advanced then the commonly used LSD.
The RS doesn't have it since the Rally cars are usually does not run AYC and ABS.
But still you will find a good amount AYC running on production class in rally/ they are close to a factory wtq numbers/. So they actually put it in.
WHy ? because it is a great unit and does a best job in LSD world. /what do you think why is banned in WRC since the Evo VI ? LOL /
But it has its on plague. Like, need accessory's. Fluid pump , fluid lines etc. So if it goes wrong can be more thing just one. The mean time the mechanical LSD is just a simple unit.
Also the AYC is designed around the OEM whp level and WTQ level. So when you start going way over that, the AYC is start loosing reliability.
Imagine that like this, until you run less then let say 28 psi your engine is perfectly fine. But when you start running over 30 PSI on road race or longer , you need to rebuild the engine. That makes the engine bad or less efficent?
The RS made for rally period it is a base rally car , how do i know it
The RS vin number is all homologated vs all other models which are NOT.

And for that price what they selling RS the AYC would be big loss for the manufacturer. / they are dirty cheap/
So they do not put it in, just like they do not have radio AC recaros, brembos , etc.
Also another reason, most grupe A cars running over 500 ft/lb and that wtq level the OEM AYC simply would blown to pieces. Just like any other LSD which are doesn't designed for those WTQ. So the bigger teams would throw it out anyway.

So that is why you dont see them in unlimited classes, not because they are less effective then the mechanical LSD. In fact as i said they got banned in WRC so there is your answer about how bad or good they are...

Rob

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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RX7 r2
I would buy an RS to race only, but most RS buyers are street drivers, so ABS makes sense there also.
nope they are not. Most RS is on track. Maybe in the US , but that is a twilight zone for the EVo's still
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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if you want RS + ABS give Dan@TMRAustralia a call - apparently they have it working...
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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if you want RS + ABS give Dan@TMRAustralia a call - apparently they have it working...
how about the opposite ? LOL no ABS on GSR?
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