As good as that is, i would probably hold off until the rest of the aftermarket catches up. I guarantee you it wont be that long before they crack everything on ECUflash - not with the money that is at stake. Piggy-backs are alright, but 1000 bucks is still 1000 bucks. It won't be long till you see equivalent flashes for the X that cost 200 bucks.

I just feel the car is so new that I would wait awhile until there is a bit more competition so that prices drop. I'm sure its worth it, but what can I say - I'm cheap. Either way, it is impressive...the 4B11 is certainly proving to be a legitimate successor to the 4G63.

 

1K? No way... Like the mexican, I mean Canexican said, I'd wait for the flash or other products to come out...

 

That is a good point. These cars are very new. The 4B11 is living up to the predecessors I agree also.

 

Wow, I think these numbers are quite impressive. I’m curious how reliable the 4b11 will be with the added power, I know only time will tell, hence why I’m waiting till next year to purchase a new car.

 

I wonder what the actual release date is for this. The review says that it should be out by the time we read the review..but we read the review..they lied lol. I guess they are testing it, which is a good thing. Have to keep checking up on Vishnu.

 

The RIMS are so nice!

 

they actually account for most of the power gains

 

The editors from Inside Line are former Sport Compact Car writers who jumped ship over to Edmunds. They know Shiv from past SCC project cars and such, so there is some familiarity there as Shiv has tuned cars for them in the past.

Incidentally, SCC is rather lame now without Jacquot or Coleman or Huffman, and the Euro transplant editors don't seem to have a whole lot of hope.

 

Nope, still worth nothing, but it does make power.

Most likely the case

Herein lies the paradox. The Procede will make great power and it will be the first to the market, Ecutek notwithstanding. X owners will most likely not want to pay the license fee, and the Procede being the only other option, impatient owners will flock to it. Shiv, Dustin, et al will post multiple dyno's and make an appearance on the forums and uninformed X owners will commence nutswinging and rah-rah-ing the praise of Vishnu. At the same time, Shiv will deride the other platform's capabilities (he is one of the most knowledgeable EFI tuners, despite his business skills) and it will most likely be true. He will make his money off those who can't wait, although this time it will be challenging because he still has to finish developing the 335 and 135 Procede applications simultaneously. To wit, he has never had this many support applications available at once; not to mention the debut of the GTR on the next horizon.

I predict the Evo X Procede will never get fully developed. The BMW market is a much larger and more lucrative market, and I don't see him being able to sacrifice that lamb. The GTR will be limited numbers, and he will charge a much larger premium based on MSRP, and might not have to compete with Ecutek as quickly. I figure $995>$1295>$1795 (Evo, BMW, GTR, respectively).

That being said, I'm sure those that are early adopters (most gearheads) will pony up the money, make great power, then jump ship when the next better and cheaper thing comes along (read: Ecuflash, or will it be CANflash?). By the time they start complaining about the residual value of Evo Procede's Shiv will have already moved on to who knows what platform.

But what do I know, I'm just making educated guesses...

 

I will wait for an ecu flash, I've had super bad experiences with piggy backs on my Mustang.

 

Shiv is just exploiting the market with half assed products until some other companies crack the ECU and he will drop all support and leave everyone with their Procede or whatever cede hanging in the wind.

Please Evo X owners learn from the mistakes made by the VIII owners. Shiv does this with the new cars. He jumps out there with some piggy back well ahead of other competitors and makes an assload of cash and then drops all support and moves on to another car. Go with a company that will provide continued support for your products.

 

Shiv e-mailed me back and told me they were close to finishing up the tuning. It should be out within a month now.

In my personal opinion, $1000 is not a lot for a 100whp gain. I honestly think it's better than going out and buying a bunch of bolt-ons and only getting so much out of them and end up having to get your car custom tuned so that you can truly achieve the gains you were promised from the manufactuer.

Once this tune comes out, I'm going to break in my EVO X and drive it hard for a while to enjoy it stock. Then I'm going to buy all the ETS bolt-ons and exhaust (if Vishnu doesn't come out with one) and do all the bolt-ons myself. Then bring the car to Vishnu for the tune and hopefully, have them tune the ECU so that I get gains from the ETS exhaust, FMIC, and intake.

 

^^wow same thaughts as me i will get ECU flash+ETS bolt ons making around 350whp and spending around 2K

 

"But there are some advantages to the new Evo X. For one, it doesn't look nearly as obtuse as previous generations of the Evo. Its wing is restrained to within a few inches of the trunk lid rather than protruding into the airflow like an oh-so-obvious product of wind tunnel design. The new car is also bigger inside, and the interior appointments are decidedly less spartan than earlier cars'"

 

Some people can be permanently satisfied with 75whp from a Vishnu tune and may not care if one that adds five more hp comes out later. There is a limit to all this. It is better to set a goal rather than be a power hungry beast. I have a goal of 300-350whp...a Vishnu chip and a few bolt ons I believe will get me there. Than all the better tunes in the world can come out, I won't care, I will be enjoying my car. In the state it is in right now it is way to restrictive and it runs like poo up top specially on the highway. The dyno time and all the ECU programming doesn't sound as appealing as a 15 minute install and a 75whp gain. best thing about the piggy back is it comes out as easily as it went in.