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Please Evo X owners learn from the mistakes made by the VIII owners. Shiv does this with the new cars. He jumps out there with some piggy back well ahead of other competitors and makes an assload of cash and then drops all support and moves on to another car. Go with a company that will provide continued support for your products.
well maybe people expect some resale value. With most engine management products, they still retain some what decent resale value, like 40-80% of the orignial price. Xede had a price of 1K and you cant even sale one for $100. Thats just wrong.
The reason...theres no support. and maybe ECUFlash ; )
The reason...theres no support. and maybe ECUFlash ; )
As far as support, my Xede ran for 3 years with no problems and I never had a reason to call Vishnu, so I can’t vouch for their support. Personally I think they made a big mistake for giving people access to mess around with the maps on their own.
There are a couple of advantages the PROcede has over the XEDE. The XEDE was a lot older and there are different versions of it that work on different cars. There is only one version of PROcede. So if you have a Mazdaspeed 3 PROcede and trade that car in on an Evo, you can move the unit to the new car, all you need is a harness. If you trade your Mazda or Evo in on a BMW 135i, 335i, 535i, you can still use the same PROcede. It just needs a different harness and a free firmware update. IMO, that's pretty slick.
People complaining about the limp mode thing is getting old to me. The limp mode happened on the BMW N54 engines way up top where the throttle plate closes. It was basically an overboost code. They have since corrected that issue on the BMW. Since the Evo isn't direct injection, it doesn't have a throttle plate that closes at high RPM either. All that to say, BMW problems are not Evo problems. I've read there are beta cars out west running the PROcede on the Evo X with good results.
People complaining about the limp mode thing is getting old to me. The limp mode happened on the BMW N54 engines way up top where the throttle plate closes. It was basically an overboost code. They have since corrected that issue on the BMW. Since the Evo isn't direct injection, it doesn't have a throttle plate that closes at high RPM either. All that to say, BMW problems are not Evo problems. I've read there are beta cars out west running the PROcede on the Evo X with good results.
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You are the first person to tell me that it throws an engine code. No one else who installed it right and just left it be has said that it does that.
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As good as that is, i would probably hold off until the rest of the aftermarket catches up. I guarantee you it wont be that long before they crack everything on ECUflash - not with the money that is at stake. Piggy-backs are alright, but 1000 bucks is still 1000 bucks. It won't be long till you see equivalent flashes for the X that cost 200 bucks.
I just feel the car is so new that I would wait awhile until there is a bit more competition so that prices drop. I'm sure its worth it, but what can I say - I'm cheap. Either way, it is impressive...the 4B11 is certainly proving to be a legitimate successor to the 4G63.
I just feel the car is so new that I would wait awhile until there is a bit more competition so that prices drop. I'm sure its worth it, but what can I say - I'm cheap. Either way, it is impressive...the 4B11 is certainly proving to be a legitimate successor to the 4G63.
Thank goodness the X won't have a PO300 issue.
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Ignore that. It is not even out yet, and its a new application. Lets see what it brings to the table and decide from the Evo X PROcede, not Evo VIII XEDEs and certainly not PROcedes from another application (BMW).
No, its not a reflash. Of course they would see it if the hood was opened and yoy left it inside the car at the dealership.
My opinion is that I am not going to hide my mods. I never go to the dealer for anything other than parts anyway, and if they see them, so what. Especially when I get a tune. I'm not going to try to sneak something off. I did that when I was younger and it was lame.
My opinion is that I am not going to hide my mods. I never go to the dealer for anything other than parts anyway, and if they see them, so what. Especially when I get a tune. I'm not going to try to sneak something off. I did that when I was younger and it was lame.
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No, its not a reflash. Of course they would see it if the hood was opened and yoy left it inside the car at the dealership.
My opinion is that I am not going to hide my mods. I never go to the dealer for anything other than parts anyway, and if they see them, so what. Especially when I get a tune. I'm not going to try to sneak something off. I did that when I was younger and it was lame.
My opinion is that I am not going to hide my mods. I never go to the dealer for anything other than parts anyway, and if they see them, so what. Especially when I get a tune. I'm not going to try to sneak something off. I did that when I was younger and it was lame.
The Procede I think would be worth taking off to save the warranty honestly since it is so easy to install and uninstall ...at least by looking at the previous ones. The Procede looks good to me even though it gets smack from a lot of people. With it I can achieve the goal I set, I don't want to keep modding the car forever.
Last edited by love9sick; Apr 7, 2008 at 01:57 PM.
and spending around 2K
Guys the article says 75hp and 75tq not whp and wtq.
Some people can be permanently satisfied with 75whp from a Vishnu tune and may not care if one that adds five more hp comes out later. There is a limit to all this. It is better to set a goal rather than be a power hungry beast. I have a goal of 300-350whp...a Vishnu chip and a few bolt ons I believe will get me there. Than all the better tunes in the world can come out, I won't care, I will be enjoying my car. In the state it is in right now it is way to restrictive and it runs like poo up top specially on the highway. The dyno time and all the ECU programming doesn't sound as appealing as a 15 minute install and a 75whp gain. best thing about the piggy back is it comes out as easily as it went in.
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It shaves a second off with 40whp ? 
Vishnu dynos on their thread show aprox 75whp.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=322616
Vishnu dynos on their thread show aprox 75whp.https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=322616
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