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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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I was driving on the highway just now, 2500rpm in 5th. Pushed on the gas a little to pass the car in front of me. As I turned into the next lane and got on the gas, the car misfired and the dash flashed CHECK with a ! in a triangle. Then it went away a second later. Felt like I just lost power for an instant, enough to make it feel like I hit the car that I was passing. But I thought it was weird that it gave me a warning just saying check, and it didn't say what to check. No CEL, no warning lights, and everything appears fine now.

What do I check?!?!?!?

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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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I would definitely agree with taking the car back to the dealership and asking them.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
Agreed. Things are showing up almost daily now.
You can stop now.

Like there weren't a ton of threads like this when the VIII came out. I remember it, because they were happening to me.

I am so tired of deleting posts just like these that do not contribute to the forum at all. Didn't Speedlimit tell you to stay put in that one thread? It fits, since all you want to do is bring up little jabs like this against the X in every thread you can find.


Originally Posted by jmelocik
Good idea! Mind if I do?

Josh
I would not recommend doing it again. Check PM. Anything you need regarding that topic is stickied at the top of the X forums.

Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
Sounds exactly like the P0300 code.
No, its nothing like the PO300 code. That was a hard code. The only reason people think this is a PO300 is because VIII owners were plagued with them and because he used "misfire" in the first post. If you read his description more closely and own an X, you'll know exactly what happened.

Originally Posted by mikebutler
car is stock. wow lots of replies already. so, is the p0300 an invisible code that doesn't leave a CEL on the old evos? Guess I can swing by the dealer.
No, not at all.
This is what happens when people who know absolutely nothing about an Evo X run amuck with your thread and fill in the blanks with whatever the heck they can make up. Its like gossip spreading when the first person says "The mail came today" and the fifth person says "The mailman came in today, slept with your wife, killed your dog, and burned your house down. I wouldn't go home if I were you!" Its beyond ridiculous.

You do NOT have a PO300 random cylinder misfire. Why? The issue that caused the PO300 in the VIII and IX has been rectified in the X. And you don't have a hard code.

Did you run over uneven pavement for a moment? Was it wet outside? What you most likely had if you did not receive a CEL engine or the SES code (CAN systems have two code methods) was a momentary intervention of the traction control. Nothing more, nothing less. The triangle with the explanation point was Mitsu's caution illumination and their version of "check control". It was letting you know that the car did not have perfect traction for a moment for some reason. If you don't want to ever see that code or feel that cut again, press the ASC button once and defeat electronic throttle cut to the ASC.

If you want to replicate it, drive spirited in the rain or come into a safe corner a bit too hot. Its fairly easy to make it intervene if the traction nannies are all turned on (default).

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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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^^^ 'bout time it's been said...Noize, you're the man

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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
You can stop now.

I would not recommend doing it again. Check PM.
Haha, I pity da fool!


To the OP, can't help with the problem, but hope it was as simple as what Noize said.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Did you run over uneven pavement for a moment? Was it wet outside? What you most likely had if you did not receive a CEL engine or the SES code (CAN systems have two code methods) was a momentary intervention of the traction control. Nothing more, nothing less. The triangle with the explanation point was Mitsu's caution illumination and their version of "check control". It was letting you know that the car did not have perfect traction for a moment for some reason. If you don't want to ever see that code or feel that cut again, press the ASC button once and defeat electronic throttle cut to the ASC.

If you want to replicate it, drive spirited in the rain or come into a safe corner a bit too hot. Its fairly easy to make it intervene if the traction nannies are all turned on (default).
dry flat pavement. it was NOT the ASC. the ASC shows a sliding car and flashes it for 3 seconds in a yellow color. this was just a giant triangle and the word check, in orange.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Maybe it was trying to tell you to not go WOT in 5th gear? That creats a VERY high load on the engine...could be some sortof protection program to help prolong engine life.
Never know what these engineers are thinking! LOL
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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I had a similar thing go down on my moms BMW one time. It flashed CEL, cut power on me then all was good a half-second later. Anything controlled by a computer can have a random dust-up. Even the most BA computers might hiccup every once in a while for no real reason. I'd go with the the car trying to say "calm it on down" or simply perhaps a minor glitch in it. Weird stuff happens.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Im wondering if it was cold and he simply might have hit boost/fuel cut? Even when the car is still stock, and can hit fuel cut for a split second. 5th gear at wot to simply pass (lower rpm's) puts a lot of load on the motor with boost. So it could possibly have hit fuel cut??
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Nah, I think I might have found it.

Mike, turn your manual to page 3-188. Until I read your very last post, I did not realize you had the giant check triangle.

There is a thread on here about an adjustment the techs are supposed to do when they PDI the car for the timing chain.

Take in your manual and show them this page. They might have forgotten to set the initial chain spec in the ECU.

Obviously, your car is brand new and there is no way there is any wear on the timing chain. Get the dealer to test and program the ECU properly for the location of the chain, and you should not have to deal with this anymore.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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I believe Buschur posted something similar to this on the X they had. You may want to do a search but I recall something quite similar about 1-2 weeks ago that was brought up.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Yeah I would take it back to the dealership........hopefully they should flash the ecu while you are there.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Nah, I think I might have found it.

Mike, turn your manual to page 3-188. Until I read your very last post, I did not realize you had the giant check triangle.

There is a thread on here about an adjustment the techs are supposed to do when they PDI the car for the timing chain.

Take in your manual and show them this page. They might have forgotten to set the initial chain spec in the ECU.

Obviously, your car is brand new and there is no way there is any wear on the timing chain. Get the dealer to test and program the ECU properly for the location of the chain, and you should not have to deal with this anymore.
Yeah, that's what I saw. Wow, timing chain problem... sheesh. Dealer says stop buy M-F and they will test drive the car to check it out. Right, they aren't going to see it. I hate dealers.

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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mikebutler
Yeah, that's what I saw. Wow, timing chain problem... sheesh. Dealer says stop buy M-F and they will test drive the car to check it out. Right, they aren't going to see it. I hate dealers.
Its nothing sinister, buddy. They just did not set the initial value when they PDI'd the car. Check this thread out: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=333718

Watch the video at the top of page 2.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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The only random screen message I saw was when the Temp outside hit 37F a warning showed up and says "caution roads could be icy"
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