Originally Posted by Jonasan50

Noize has waaayy too much time on his hands... Or, he types as fast as my wife!! Hahahaha...

Originally Posted by MasterShake

You fill up in a parking lot :P

Originally Posted by CC16

It really all depends on what you had built in your head before coming into this. I, for one, was coming from a really nicely done 68 Chevrolet Camaro SS. No power steering, no power brakes, no A/C no electronic nothing, 6mpg, on a good day. But mad straightline power, just as quick as the Evo if not a touch faster. Then my true beater was some busted up 87 Dodge Daytona. It broke down once a week, leaked every fluid out there and then some, total junk pile. So for me, the X is quite possibly the coolest most BA thing Ive ever had. It turns, stops and has A/C and heat. I think the interior is really nice, compared to what I've been up against It gets 27mpg highway for me and the list goes on and on and on. Its an incredible car and I don't think the pricetag was asking too much. However, if youre one of the cult Evo Pre-X members I can also understand your dislike, whine whine whine the X is trash whine whine. I think all post 69 Camaro are junk, I understand the cult-approach to "new" things.

EDIT: And my GF has a 99 M3, and I think the Evo kills it in every way except perhaps leather seats, but the Evos are far more comfortable and my *** doesnt slide out of them on road-trips.

Originally Posted by Noize

If I had a dollar for every post like this, I could probably buy an second Evo X.

As far as the problems, every first year car has them. The first year Oldsmobile Aurora's fuel door swung too wide for clearance of the back door. The result of this was that if you had a passenger in the backseat who opened the door while you were filling up with gas, the door would literally rip the fuel door off its hinges and send it flying across the parking lot.

In the eighties, GM put Crossfire injected V8s in higher performance versions of third gen F bodies. The injector spray into the intake manifold was open, and they had a ram air scoop above it. Problem was, water could get in there too. I guess GM was thinking it might never rain. At any rate, several engines hydrolocked as a result.

More recently, the Mazda RX-8 had more engine failures than expected, and Mazda has done several things for the customers including warranty extension and multiple reflashes in attempt to rectify it.

On to the Evo X, there are problems, but Mitsubishi and the ownership base at large are working to rectify them:

1) The paint issue is not necessarily an issue with the paint itself, as a design where the car is shaped that allows the front wheels to spray rocks at the back sides of the car. There is no paint that can withstand this. The solution is to buy $5 DIY mudflaps, buy nice $200 mud flaps from the dealer, get the aero kit which blocks the rock spray, or get a nice film like the Xpel to protect the car.

2) The notchy transmission issue is a bit maddening. But I have owned cars with much worse transmissions. 4th and 5th generation Honda Preludes had thin shift forks that manifested in terrible 5th gear grinds and reverse lockout. It took several years for Honda to own up and put a TSB out on this. In my opinion, the notchy transmission is the only thing on the Evo X that I can really fault as a fairly major problem.

3) Jumpy low RPM and high rpm sputtering. I have never had the high RPM issue, and had the jumpiness twice in 5000 miles, each lasting no longer than 5 seconds. There is a reflash out for this now, so it is not a concern anymore.

4) My car has never stalled, never "made noises", not sure what you are talking about on the noises, but the stall is a part of #3 and is covered by the reflash. Again, not an issue now.

I don't know if you have looked recently, but $32k is about what most cars of any worth cost. For the Evo, its a flat out bargain. You can't expect BMW interior on a car that costs $32,000. You have to ask yourself, do you want a performance car, or do you want to be a dash molester AKA someone who needs a cushy interior. The BMW 135i costs only a bit more than the Evo X, but it it open differential RWD. The Evo has three differentials, all wheel drive, and Active Yaw Control. Think of the Evo as a $16000 car with $16000 worth of aftermarket modifications. If you want it all, you can get a BMW M3, high strung V8 with a great limited slip, amazing handling, and an interior that is out of this world, but be prepared to plunk down $60 large to get even a stripper model.

The old addage, you get what you pay for, applies here, but thanks to invoice pricing and dealers who are vendors on here, you are able to get more than you pay for with the Evo X.

The STI to me is no comparison. Its a boxer motor that has been prone to early failure in the past, it doesn't rev well, has miles of piping just to get to the turbo, uses a smaller and heat soak prone top mount intercooler, understeers terribly, but it has does have a bit nicer interior. I had a WRX, and I never will have another new Subaru again.

Red cars have always faded worse than other colors. Solution: Don't buy red.

Lastly, as far as what a girl thinks about your interior, etc, you are probably in the wrong car. People don't buy Evos for fancy interiors, they buy them because they offer a crap ton of performance.

Originally Posted by Noize

I can type pretty darn fast, but I am off work and at home with my 2 year old daughter who is recovering from strep today. You guys are my sanity right now. She, on the other hand, is putting stickers on me and drinking all the chocolate milk she can find.



I hear that. Both my daughters just got over that about a month ago... Good luck with it..

A lot of these guys tend to forget that with the money they spend, they are buying ne of the most modern performance vehicles around for the money. This technology is in much more expensive cars.. Now you take out all the BMW, Porsche, whatevers interior, and they might cost near the same.. Well maybe not near cause you also have to buy the name.. But! They are giving you a car that can lay the smackdown on all those other cars for the price.. All the little trinkets in the interior are little extras to make the days go by.. Im just glad they have cruise control now...

Guess what guys, I know quite a few people with all those nice cars that have their problems with brand new 60K plus performance cars.. You would probably commit suicide if you paid that and were having trouble, with all the grief ur giving Mits.. Jeesh...

Originally Posted by Noize

I had a red Honda Prelude that was faded noticably in 4 years. If you see any red Integra, they're all pink now. I fail to see the connection.

Seriously, maybe a Mitusbishi is not for you anymore, man. Or just don't get red.