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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Disaster - Help/Advice Needed

okay, well, in a nutshell here it goes

a couple of weeks ago i got my car tuned and a boost controller installed. when i drove off, seemed great, and the car felt much much faster. maybe about 40 mins into driving, a check engine light came on and the car went into the dreaded 'limp' mode. and get this, when i get to lights, the engine stays at 2k rpm revving. what the? great... so i pull into a gas station, turn the car off and turn it back on, CEL stayed on but the turbo felt like it was good to go. boost was fine... i eventually called the shop back, and agreed to take it back.

so i take it back, ecutek is reinstalled, and the car seems okay. i get around home and another CEL comes on, but the car feels fine. ah well... no biggie right?

here's where it starts to **** me off. i take it out a couple days later (didn't drive it for a day) and i start off fine. no CEL, no limp mode, no nothing. 5 minutes later, hell breaks loose. the car flashes a CEL, the car starts to rev itself again. it goes in a pattern: rev to 2k rpm----rev to 2k rpm----rev to 2k rpm. while it's doing this, i can barely get the car to 25 mph. mind you, I'M ON THE ROAD so cars start to get pissed and i can't go anywhere. i pull over to the side of the road and turn it off. while it's off, i call the shop but it's 6:30 pm so i figured no answer. turn the car back on and it's fine. it is still in limp mode, however, so hardly any boost.

fast forward to the next day (tonight). the car still has a CEL but it's running. a friend and i decide to grab a bite to eat, and on the way there, 'limp' mode strikes again. at this point i'm starting to regret getting a tune altogether. the car can barely get to 50 and boost is dead. after we are coming back, maybe a minute into the ride, the trip computer gives me a new error with a picture of a car and the message 'take into dealer for service!'. awesome. the car starts to rev itself again and i'm in downtown d.c. basically stuck. car won't go... so i pull over and turn it off. turn it back on. it won't come on. my buddy can vouch for me, he was even more shocked because he's not into cars and it looks bad as my brand new car is toast. the car still won't start. finally a couple minutes later it comes on, 'limp' mode and all. and i manage to make it home, and now i come to the boards for help.

has anyone experienced anything like this? should i get the tune removed? i seriously don't want anymore headaches. i don't know whether to be mad at myself for getting it in the first place, or mitsu for making such a complicated ecu, or ecutek, or the shop.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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did you have the cel pulled? its hard to help without knowing what code you threw
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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have u gone to check what code the cel is. Maybe you have boost leak
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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you don't need a boost controller. The tune, if the guy isn't lazy can control the boost.

You likely are throwing the partial throttle overboost code (very common with tunes).

You need to either remove the tune and the boost controller (which you should remove anyway) and go back to stock.

OR

Find a tuner that's not a lazy incompetent bum.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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haven't had the code checked. never thought about that though. i was thinking something in the computer was screwed up, other than intake it's still stock part-wise.

i hate to bring it to mitsu, pretty much inevitable that they'll blame the tune/mbc
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Im not an expert or anything, but did you upgrade the clamps? Mine did that once, and found out to be popped/loosen ic pipes. Hope you find your problem soon!!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by goofygrin
you don't need a boost controller. The tune, if the guy isn't lazy can control the boost.

You likely are throwing the partial throttle overboost code (very common with tunes).

You need to either remove the tune and the boost controller (which you should remove anyway) and go back to stock.

OR

Find a tuner that's not a lazy incompetent bum.
hmm okay. this helps, thanks a lot. i heard that with ecutek you didn't need the mbc, i was also wary about that. in this area, there doesn't seem to be a wide array of choices for tuners. whatever the case, i'll probably have this stuff removed. not worth the headache.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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I dont know whom did your original tune up.

With your limited mods there should be no problem using ecutek with a MBC or without

You should take the car to any auto zone or peop boys whom can read the code for you which can help me and others here to pin point the particular issue you may be having

It seems like you have an old rom without the air flow "fix" - hard to tell without knowing what the code is

It could be an unrelated hardware issue which is why you need to get the code pulled

Have your dealer contact Ecutek directly as they can review his / her rom and make suggestions to correct the situation - that is what they are there for and what you pay for when you buy a premium professional product like Ecutek

If that fails of you want to take the ride up here I will be happy to take a look at the situation and attempt to diagnose it and provide you a suitable base map to use free of charge to help alievaite your situation

I dont want Ecutek to get a bad name due to one isiolated example. I am willing to help as I want you to enjoy your Ecutek purchase and everyone to know its a great hassel free and bug free product

I have tuned many X's with Ecutek and we have no cel problems regardless of what form of boost control is used

Al

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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tomatoEVO
hmm okay. this helps, thanks a lot. i heard that with ecutek you didn't need the mbc, i was also wary about that. in this area, there doesn't seem to be a wide array of choices for tuners. whatever the case, i'll probably have this stuff removed. not worth the headache.
This is why I have not even considered a tune. No local support = no way in hell I'm getting it done.

The guy in the post above me sounds like he has a clue. If he's close you should use someone like him, not the local fart pipe on a civic "intercrew" joint.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I dont know whom did your original tune up.

With your limited mods there should be no problem using ecutek with a MBC or without

Have your dealer contact Ecutek directly as they can review his / her rom and make suggestions to correct the situation - that is what they are there for and what you pay for when you buy a premium professional product like Ecutek

If that fails of you want to take the ride up here I will be happy to take a look at the situation and attempt to diagnose it and provide you a suitable base map to use free of charge to help alievaite your situation

I dont want Ecutek to get a bad name due to one isiolated example

I have tuned many X's with Ecutek and we have no cel problems regardless of what form of boost control is used

Al
i see, thanks for the info. DTM did the tune. i don't want to point fingers or bash or ruin rep or whatever... but this is unacceptable and right now i definitely feel taken for my $

oh and for reference, where are you located?
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by goofygrin
This is why I have not even considered a tune. No local support = no way in hell I'm getting it done.

The guy in the post above me sounds like he has a clue. If he's close you should use someone like him, not the local fart pipe on a civic "intercrew" joint.
yeah this is a big-time regret right now. my ride has gone from a totally reliable daily driver to having the reliability of a 88 oldsmobile. the 'limp' mode and car shutting down while on the road are serious safety hazards and hardly worth the increase in performance
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Dynoflash is located at:

700 Canal Street - 3rd FL
Stamford, CT 06902
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EvolvedVIII
Dynoflash is located at:

700 Canal Street - 3rd FL
Stamford, CT 06902
jesus. i don't even think i'd make it that far, i could barely keep up with a plymouth on the highway
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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well that is why you need to go a respectable tuner.
always search first and then you can decide better. it might takes time but well worth it. i think you will agree with me on this .
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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tomatoEVO, msg DynoFlash personally, he's the guy to talk to in your area (east coast, bordering North east). Maybe you guys can meet up somewhere, Al is pretty cool (don't know him personally, but love his youtube vids and love his posts on here). Seems like a stand up guy imo.
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