EVO X parts swappable to the RalliArt?
It has even been stated by Mitsubishi that the RA is closer to the regular Lancer than the Evo. You're looking at the obvious. You do realize there is a lot more underneath that sheet metal than the obvious, right?AWD? Check.
Turbocharged 2.0 liter? Check.
Intercooled? Check.
6 speed sequential manual transmission? Check.
Yeah, sounds much closer to a fwd non-turbo CVT transmission commuter car than it does to an EVO!!!!
Here is the rundown.
Performance wise it has different (steel) control arms,smaller fenders, wheels, brakes, and turbo. The fenders, hood, and roof may be steel, I am not sure. But the RA is supposed to be lighter than the EVO, so these may still be aluminum parts.
I can't wait for the new RA's to come out. I would purchase a wrecked one from an insurance auction just for the spare transmission!
Keith
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I'm in the agreement of the RA being closer to the EVO than the Lancer. I'm sure lots of 10 parts will be swappable into the RA. I'm sure the turbo will be a direct swap, except for maybe some different lines.
I think the next 2 years will be very interesting to see how tuners of the Evo X get as far as the 4B11 and what that means in turn for prospective RA owners.
At this point, after owning a fully decked out 40K sticker priced GSR for two months, it certainly doesn't feel like a 40 grand car. However, I love the handling and the looks, even if my aero kit is all muffed up.
Once my lease is up in 2 years, I suspect there will be some decently modified 10's and RA's rolling around with a pretty identifiable upgrade path to some decent power.
If I can score an RA on the cheap like I did my GSR, wouldn't be a bad idea to look into it. Why should I spend 35k on a decked out GSR when I can pay 25k for a RA and drop 10K into making it the car I want it to be.
It's suspension and chassis are very similar (If not identical in most respects) to the regular Lancer.
Can somebody give me a good reason why anybody would buy the RA? It would seem that Subaru has responded with a good product and the RA may be too expensive in the current market.
Not trying to diss the car, but it didn't come out soon enough and now it is in a bad spot price-wise.
Not trying to diss the car, but it didn't come out soon enough and now it is in a bad spot price-wise.
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Can somebody give me a good reason why anybody would buy the RA? It would seem that Subaru has responded with a good product and the RA may be too expensive in the current market.
Not trying to diss the car, but it didn't come out soon enough and now it is in a bad spot price-wise.
Not trying to diss the car, but it didn't come out soon enough and now it is in a bad spot price-wise.
What is your problem with the new RA?
AWD? Check.
Turbocharged 2.0 liter? Check.
Intercooled? Check.
6 speed sequential manual transmission? Check.
Yeah, sounds much closer to a fwd non-turbo CVT transmission commuter car than it does to an EVO!!!!
Here is the rundown.
Performance wise it has different (steel) control arms,smaller fenders, wheels, brakes, and turbo. The fenders, hood, and roof may be steel, I am not sure. But the RA is supposed to be lighter than the EVO, so these may still be aluminum parts.
I can't wait for the new RA's to come out. I would purchase a wrecked one from an insurance auction just for the spare transmission!
Keith
AWD? Check.
Turbocharged 2.0 liter? Check.
Intercooled? Check.
6 speed sequential manual transmission? Check.
Yeah, sounds much closer to a fwd non-turbo CVT transmission commuter car than it does to an EVO!!!!
Here is the rundown.
Performance wise it has different (steel) control arms,smaller fenders, wheels, brakes, and turbo. The fenders, hood, and roof may be steel, I am not sure. But the RA is supposed to be lighter than the EVO, so these may still be aluminum parts.
I can't wait for the new RA's to come out. I would purchase a wrecked one from an insurance auction just for the spare transmission!
Keith
Like it have a turbo charger just some how is smaller , even have a AWD but some how is less capable.. ^speed SST , yes but some how is not a same as the Evo SST..
etc. If you add those all together , the RA will fall behind the evo by miles.
i think the RA is a great car, but it is a bold thing to compere to the EVo.
Also i think some parts will be interchangeable, like the suspension.
How is it closer to the Lancer?
Ralliart to Evo X
1- Both have AWD (I know they arent the same, but its still closer to the evo than standard Front wheel drive)
2- Both have a 2.0l 4b11t (Turbo) MIVEC engines
3- Both have an SST Tranny (MR only)
4- Interior - Exact (Except for the AWC switch on the steering wheel)
5- 58 horsepower difference (Ralliart to Evo)
6- Ralliart has the Evo X hood
7- Both have Dual Exhaust
Ralliart to the Lancer
1- Almost exact Body (Front grille is different)
2- Interior - Similar, but different steering wheel and shifter.
3- Tires/Wheels - Probably the same (Wheels may be a bit darker)
5- 67 horsepower difference (For an 09 GTS) (83 Hp difference for an 08)
Feel free to add anything significant I missed.
I fail to see how it is closer to the non-turbo, front wheel drive, economy/family sedan the Lancer is. Regardless of what mistu said.
Ralliart to Evo X
1- Both have AWD (I know they arent the same, but its still closer to the evo than standard Front wheel drive)
2- Both have a 2.0l 4b11t (Turbo) MIVEC engines
3- Both have an SST Tranny (MR only)
4- Interior - Exact (Except for the AWC switch on the steering wheel)
5- 58 horsepower difference (Ralliart to Evo)
6- Ralliart has the Evo X hood
7- Both have Dual Exhaust
Ralliart to the Lancer
1- Almost exact Body (Front grille is different)
2- Interior - Similar, but different steering wheel and shifter.
3- Tires/Wheels - Probably the same (Wheels may be a bit darker)
5- 67 horsepower difference (For an 09 GTS) (83 Hp difference for an 08)
Feel free to add anything significant I missed.
I fail to see how it is closer to the non-turbo, front wheel drive, economy/family sedan the Lancer is. Regardless of what mistu said.
Make sure you will remember that.
Dont fall into a same mistake, like the WRX guys did. Get a WRX and i will have a STI, but for less money . Just i have to put some money into it. And still will be cheaper.
The fact is , to over come to the STI advantiges , they need a mass amount of money and ending up to spend more, just to get to that level.
Dont expect any difference between the RA and a EVO too.
No car manufacturer is that stupid.
it is an upgraded lancer , not a detuned evo.
Make sure you will remember that.
Dont fall into a same mistake, like the WRX guys did. Get a WRX and i will have a STI, but for less money . Just i have to put some money into it. And still will be cheaper.
The fact is , to over come to the STI advantiges , they need a mass amount of money and ending up to spend more, just to get to that level.
Dont expect any difference between the RA and a EVO too.
No car manufacturer is that stupid.
Make sure you will remember that.
Dont fall into a same mistake, like the WRX guys did. Get a WRX and i will have a STI, but for less money . Just i have to put some money into it. And still will be cheaper.
The fact is , to over come to the STI advantiges , they need a mass amount of money and ending up to spend more, just to get to that level.
Dont expect any difference between the RA and a EVO too.
No car manufacturer is that stupid.
I foresee the tranny being the weak spot in this equation as well. SST trannies in the X's have already seemed to be a little problematic (not positive) but even if the RA gets the exact same one, which I doubt it will, you are talking about buying a brand new 5 speed for the RA in order to handle any power at all, which will be a couple grand minimum. So like previously stated, you will never win by buying this model, its sounds like a great mid priced vehicle, and I think its cool, but upgradeability will suffer and you will have to spend more in the long run.