well you started that .. dont you remember?
It is a lame to try to put that on some one else , when everybody including you, know you did.

but sure its entertaining for a while...

 

To sorta get back on topic.. I believe 2009 Evo is being delayed becuz 2009 WRX has threatened the value/performance ratio of Evo, and has forced Mitsu to re-examine the Evo. These numbers are all from latest Car and Driver:

.............................. 2008 Evo MR............ 2009 WRX
0-60....................... 5.3 .......................... 4.7
0-100..................... 14.2 ........................ 12.9
1/4 mile.................. 14.0@99mph .......... 13.2@102mph
70-0 ....................... 162ft ...................... 160ft
as tested ............... $41,465 .................. $25,660

 

i wouldnt worry about the 09 WRX, this is a common issue since 2008 and the history is continue in 2009 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cjXSNxfJfI

quote form the Subaru forum :

""Sounds like the rod bearing failure that was supposed to be solved by the stop sale on the 08 models, but has carried over to the 09 models. Obviously, Subaru either doesn't have a clue as to what the problem is (or maybe how to solve it) or they are willing to accept the small number of failures rather than spend some amount of money completely eliminating the problem. In my mind, this is notable stain on the Subaru brand, which is typically quite reliable. Take the least reliable auto manfacturer (say GM) and you don't hear about major internal engine defects from the factory like this and even if you did, it wouldn't extend to two model years. WTF Subaru?

Invariably, someone will come in and say, "what does it matter? Its under warranty". But, obviously, they've never a dealership perform major repairs on their car. They try to rush it probably because the warranty times given by Subaru are unrealistic for major repairs. This results in stuff like stripped bolts, loose bolts, scratched/dinged stuff, broken connectors, etc., but as long as it runs, that is all they care about. So, yeah, it is not fun having your motor replaced under warranty."

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hlight=Mono666

 

i started it?? i never once compared the X to the IX or even mentioned the words "Evo IX" in this whole thread!! find me a single post where i say anything about my IX !!!!!!!!!!!!!
all i ever said was:
1) that the X is ugly (which anyone over the age of 14 should know is a personal opinion and thus cannot be argued!),
2) that the X is overweight and overpriced (both of which are factual statements, and once again cannot be argued)
3) the X lost to a pathetic rental car with a small turbo on it (cobalt SS), AND not even in a straight line, as someone asserted, BUT overall, on a 4.2mile racetrack where the X should have been like a minute ahead of the chevy - it shouldnt have even been close.

that being said, guys, for the last time, this is your dream car! you worked hard to earn it! who gives a crap what i, or anyone else says, or even if the chevy beats it by 1 tenth of a second! love it! enjoy it! stop worrying what i think about it!
the OP asked why the 2009's arent here yet, and someone suggested that its because there is still a ton of 2008's sitting on lots, that no one wants to buy. I AGREED WITH THAT SENTIMENT - thats my opinion... MOVE ON!

 

Let me break it down for you. Since you are clearly dont read or dont want to admit your post .Like this:
"i started it?? i never once compared the X to the IX or even mentioned the words "Evo IX" in this whole thread!! find me a single post where i say anything about my IX !!!!!!!!!!!!!"

for your extra comments just she said and he said argument,that is why i will respond on it.
But as you stated here:

"Originally Posted by S6devil View Post
U guys r so amusing. Like the first time u tell someone in kindergarten that your firetruck is better than their firetruck..."

And you are one of the biggest member in that group, ironically.

1) is personal opinion as you said, and you are the one again, who bring it up.
Interesting at least. no further comment on it.
2) The X is over weight compere to what? Or over priced to what?
You compere to the IX ?
3) That pathetic rental car are you referring to is actually /if we take the test as a facts / did pretty good compere others then X too:

"8:22 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS verified manufacturer time[citation needed]
8:22 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video Special DVD
8:22 BMW M3 E46 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2000)
8:22 BMW M Coupe E36/8 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (10/1998)
8:24 Audi S5 Sport Auto (01/2008)
8:24 2004 Subaru Impreza Sport Auto (05/2004), Sport tires[citation needed]
8:25 Lotus Exige S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:25 Jaguar XKR Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:25 Porsche Cayman S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:24 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/1999), Sport tires[citation needed]
8:25 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2002), Sport tires[citation needed]
8:26 BMW 335i E92 Coupe Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:26 Nissan 350Z Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (10/2003)
8:28 Porsche 911 Carrera (993) Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/1997)
8:32 Porsche Boxster S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/1999)
8:38 Honda NSX Sport Auto, (08/1997)
8:39 Honda S2000 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (01/2000) "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times


"thats my opinion... MOVE ON!"

 

Save face? From what, some ignorant fanboy's factually incorrect statements? No, I am just presenting the facts in the face of stupidity. In any case, I made it perfectly clear that it was a different test that the 9 was run in and even reiterated that in an even clearer fashion in a later post. Sure the results can vary from driver to driver and day to day with weather changees, but assuming all things being equal, the numbers give an idea of what to expect.

It is no more flawed than looking at one test with the same drivers, as drivers skill and familiarity with the car in question plays a huge role in lap time performance. Hell, from examing the sector data in the one test where the X lost, you can tell that it wasn't being pushed to it's capabilities in several turns which sandbags the test IMO. What the mags need to start doing is hiring real pros to do the testing and that would eliminate a lot of these discrepancies.

 

Don't bother with him Rob, he's just some childish fanboy that has nothing better to do than troll forums. It is clear that victory between the two cars depends on whether the track favors power to weight or handling prowess. What's funny is that the SS puts down a faster time on VIR than his 9 also, yet as many times as I mentioned that, he just can't respond because he has no rebuttal.

 

yes its a giant conspiracy against Mitsubishi

u know who was driving that X so slowly on purpose? it was the 2nd shooter from the grassy knoll

WOW, with every post, im desperately trying to move on, but u guys are simply making it too much fun

 

Granted, S6devil's comment was inflammatory, but he's allowed to have an opinion and it's up to him to phrase it. OTOH, the reactionary rebuttals are just embarrasing. Really. You guys can't possibly think that such actions are to be admired.

 

LOUD NOISES!

 

I never said that it was deliberate, I just made the point that driver familiarity with the capabilities of a given car play a role. Clearly this true, as edmunds "pro level drivers" were only able to get a 12.8 out of a X with FMIC, IC PIPES, INTAKE, EXHAUST, AND REFLASH. There are complete newbs on this forum with little to no experience on the track pulling 12.4 on a X with nothing more than a reflash. In any case, YET AGAIN, you still refuse to acknowledge any of the facts in any of my posts, or Rob's posts, for that matter.

The fact is that the X and the SS were BOTH faster than your 9 on VIR, and yet you have NO RESPONSE. Man up and accept when you're wrong, rather than dancing around issues and then taking out of context posts and using them to take the focus off of the fact that you refuse to acknowledge the facts. Grow up, and learn how to have an adult conversation with someone. Child.

 

amen to that, as much as I like evos

 

 

khm - khm .. the SS is faster then a Evo VI GT too. Over 2 sec on Nurburgring...
And of course here in the states that is considered the best Evo ever...

 

to Robevo RS, as one of the more well rounded forum member here, please have a PM chat with STi2EvoX about him keeping on mentioning my IX on this thread. he is so desperately trying to get me to mention it, or start talking about it, after i deliberately stated several times that this whole thread has nothing to do with mine, or anyone other IX's.
just makes me laugh