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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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I trust U have seen the track comparo of the X to the R8? (https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...s-pond-us.html) . 0.4 sec diffential with reasonable mod's in FQ 400; still feel "inferior" in UR X when a R8 pulls up?......Don't any more!
BTW the GTR(stock) head to head on track could not get away from a modded X (video on EVOM somewhere awile ago). I would like to see the GT2 against a X( with similar bhp) on a track; the AWD of the X may counter balance the weight differential....but guessing here.

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unless of course its a v10 R8
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by flyboytb
unless of course its a v10 R8
What are those? Never seen one...have U?

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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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yes... there is a local with one.... its the 5.2l v10 similar as to what the lambo lp560-4 has. google it for pics and stuff. still though its like 145k. I think an evo with 100k in mods would crush a v10 r8 but in the end which one gets you laid?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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right now i love mine and would prob only trade it in on my old VIII only because it was a lot faster but i am getting the X there lol. i love the rotor glow orange X havent seen another one yet
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by flyboytb
yes... there is a local with one.... its the 5.2l v10 similar as to what the lambo lp560-4 has. google it for pics and stuff. still though its like 145k. I think an evo with 100k in mods would crush a v10 r8 but in the end which one gets you laid?
I guess my point was the Lambo had>>>>HP than the EVO IX FQ but it could not use all that HP in the turns relative to the AWD of the EVO. SO still not convinced the R10 is going to do any better than the R8 on the track. Laid.... I am to old for that anymore!

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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the lambo is faster than a nissan gtr on the track which dominates an fq-400 in every area and the v10 r8 is only slightly slower than the gtr. still not seeing the connections here. quattro is still one of the best awd systems out there. anywho I still rater an rs4 or gtr over any evo.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by flyboytb
the lambo is faster than a nissan gtr on the track which dominates an fq-400 in every area and the v10 r8 is only slightly slower than the gtr. still not seeing the connections here. quattro is still one of the best awd systems out there. anywho I still rater an rs4 or gtr over any evo.
Got any track results for R10 vs EVO X FQ? Nurburgring? Anything? If not, then the point is just speculation. Also, I disagree on Quattro being better than SAWD; I know they have fundamental differences but Mitsu system has always been at the forefront of Rallying; Audi quite a long time ago; whether the latter has kept up to the design and refinement Mitsu has is doubtful but I am speculating here.
BTW I have not seen GTR (stock) head to head with an FQ400 on a track BUT I did see a modified EVO X (not crazy stuff like AMS time attack car) on the tail of a GTR and in the straights the GTR pulled away some but in the corners the X was right there waiting for the heavy, heavy GTR (and that is saying something given the weight of the X) to get through.

Later, Ken

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KPerez
Got any track results for R10 vs EVO X FQ? Nurburgring? Anything? If not, then the point is just speculation. Also, I disagree on Quattro being better than SAWD; I know they have fundamental differences but Mitsu system has always been at the forefront of Rallying; Audi quite a long time ago; whether the latter has kept up to the design and refinement Mitsu has is doubtful but I am speculating here.
BTW I have not seen GTR (stock) head to head with an FQ400 on a track BUT I did see a modified EVO X (not crazy stuff like AMS time attack car) on the tail of a GTR and in the straights the GTR pulled away some but in the corners the X was right there waiting for the heavy, heavy GTR (and that is saying something given the weight of the X) to get through.

Later, Ken
According to evo magazine, the R8 was .4 seconds faster around their track then the FQ.

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/trackday...24d259bc3be1bf
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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My EVO X is my 4 Lancer and I will trade it in for a EVO XI or XII
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Got any track results for R10 vs EVO X FQ? Nurburgring? Anything? If not, then the point is just speculation. Also, I disagree on Quattro being better than SAWD; I know they have fundamental differences but Mitsu system has always been at the forefront of Rallying; Audi quite a long time ago; whether the latter has kept up to the design and refinement Mitsu has is doubtful but I am speculating here.
BTW I have not seen GTR (stock) head to head with an FQ400 on a track BUT I did see a modified EVO X (not crazy stuff like AMS time attack car) on the tail of a GTR and in the straights the GTR pulled away some but in the corners the X was right there waiting for the heavy, heavy GTR (and that is saying something given the weight of the X) to get through.

Later, Ken
didnt say quattro was better just said that it was one of the best.... reading FTL.
there is a video around the net here somewhere (search) that shows the gtr vs fq400 in some various test including lateral g,s braking and acceleration the fq lost in every category (not by much) even then it costs about the same at the gtr (well a little less) and is not nearly as nice and technically advanced as the gtr. yes the gtr is heavy but it still gets it fat *** around the track quicker somehow.

I guess the point here is that I love the evos I have owned 2. but in the end its still an over engineered economy car built for the track, with little comfort fit and finish. I choose not to be a fanboy of the evo because I know that there are better designed cars out there even though they may not be as much as a bargain.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Audi S4 or RS4
BMW 335i - M3 (e46/e90)
Lexus IS-F
Lexus LS-F!!! (If only I had $400 grand.)
Nissan Skyline R34
Toyota Supra ('98) TT
Corvette C5/C6

Too many cars out there I'd love to own and drive everyday.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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GT-R as far as performance... if I wanted performance and good economy I might try the new 335d 425ft lbs of torque 0-60 in 6 seconds and 36 mpg highway... although diesel is WAYYY higher than even premium gas right now... so really it might not equal out to much numberwise.

Also like the 335i as well
RS4 as other have mentioned
new 911 turbo

ultimately I love my car though and will likely be keeping it for a long time unless I run into severe money problems again.
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