Can't we all get along?

We all have great cars. Both transmission types have their benefits and drawbacks. Neither is better; personal preference is a factor. (Same goes for the VIII/IX vs X debate.)

Zealotry FTL.

 

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Let's dissect the analysis and "points"

+ for the GSR( - for the MR) unless we're driving in OK during a tornado

Subjective notation I gather!

Yes, let's compare those. + for the GSR (- for the MR)

Still subjective, nothing to really say to subjecture.

This is probably a wash; you can't get a free lunch, but if we just have a 'budget' constraint, its a slight - against the MR (+ for the GSR) but that depends on what you want or if you have a budget, not necessary inclusive for any pro/con outcome.

Bluetooth - nice feature, too bad the 2010 GSR comes with that even without SSS. + for MR/- for GSR. The wiring is all in the GSR, it's just missing a few components so the GSR might as well have had that in 2008

Leather - Nicer than cloth for keeping clean, but will wear about the same. + for the MR just for style points

Nav - I'll go "-" on the MR for this. If you don't want to drive for no reason other than the sake of driving, to get from A-to-B without getting lost and wandering, wrong car. If you're taking your eyes off the wheel to read something, again, distraction == bad. Nav is good in a minivan IMO, not a creature comfort applicable to 0-60 in under 5 seconds; Oh, buy a new Camry, I think they come with that option in the SE

Bilstein/Eibach struts/springs -- softer ride in the MR; but why the lame soft tune? - for the MR

Sunroof - + for the MR for the creature comfort, but the expense comes at the price of performance. I negate the + because it comes with an immediate "-" on the performance in net.

Sound deadening - "+" for the MR if you're not into loud or fast cars but like "amenities" in a $40,000 Mitsubishi

Sweet! I do have that bit of "zealotry"! My little bro's C6 spoiled me, letting me show off in a parking lot at 0mph but leaving a cloud of black rubber smoke hanging. And for corners, that skill is actually practical. One + for the MR for there for sure!

 

I think there's pent up market for a GSR/MR mix. The MR tranny dropped into the GSR would have had me interested, and I've seen a LOT of posts around the new MR releases that wished they'd gone down in weight and creature comforts to the GSR levels but brought with it the SST-TC and perhaps a better suspension than either have. (IMO, the tranny is the best part of the MR, and I don't make knocks against not having to shift, and learning to drive fast with paddles. It is the state of the art, not arguing at all! )

Unfortunately, that just hasn't happened. Yet. If Mitsubishi can keep alive and keep the Evo alive through the Great Recession, perhaps the Evo 11 will deliver that.

 

i have a gsr and i love it

 

The US MR is actually GSR in every where else on the world... I j ust want to be sure you know it. So if you buy a US MR is actually an Evolution GSR with options.

 

Dat has me curious. Does that mean all the other GSR's have the Bilstein/Eibach suspensions? Are they setup stiffer than the US rides? I love the extra stiffness, screw ride "quality", that the US GSR has over the US MR. It'd be strange, but not impossible, if the JDM and non USDM Evo GSR's all pretty much require a suspension mod to be the same as a USDM GSR. The GSR has such a stellar setup that I've had several HPDE instructors ask what the suspension mods were I'd had done. A: "NONE"

 

I have GSR struts on Eibach Sportlines in my MR. Not a big deal... I use the OEM Bilstein/Ebach setup for winter....

 

I say drive what you like. If you like banging gears, get a manual. If you don't like banging gears, don't get a manual. Both are great cars.

Personally, I still like working both feet and rowing the gears. Maybe at some point manuals will no longer exist. I think I read somewhere that only 3% of the cars currently manufactured (worldwide?) offer a manual gearbox. But until that happens, or until I get tired of it, I like my 5sp (although it would have been nice if the X had a OD 6th gear for cruising).

 

no , the Bilstein suspension is not standard on the EvoX. That is an option. Just as a TC SST. Now i dont know the dealer packages in the EU i can ask , but im pretty sure you can have a TC SST with the standard GSR suspension. So i think it would be like a US GSR SSS package with TC SST.
I dont really look inot it since im in the US. But my friends told me about the EU stuff all the time LOL

 

"I think I read somewhere that only 3% of the cars currently manufactured (worldwide?) offer a manual gearbox."

that would be a huge miss info . But wouldn't be unusual in here...

 

Im still not sure which one to get when the time comes... i want a ww x... not sure about a gsr or mr... but the price difference is alot... idky but it just doesnt seem worth the extra money for the TC-SST

 

I'm similar, except I would have liked the MR seats. Your "mix" is now available in the form of the "SE". The grapevine says leather will be available in 2011 GSRs; we'll see.


Agreed. Manuals are very popular in Europe. I've rented a couple of cars in Ireland and both were manuals. You actually have to pay extra to rent an automatic.

I once was on a business trip in the US and asked for "anything with a manual". The guy behind the counter just laughed at me.

 

that explains it perfectly wow

In the Top Gear review of the Evo X, in the showroom, where Jeremy Clarkson recommends the "less-powerful" version. When he mentioned the 6speed gearbox instead of 5, he seemed to be describing an MR, but it clearly had a GSR front-end and GSR wheels.

makes sense now

 

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