MR vs. GSR...for real
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I don't believe his statements were meant that way what-so-ever. Instead they were lashing out at the people who diss the SST without any idea of what it really is.
Curious, why do you find manumatics annoying? I find them an absolute delight. But this is why there are 2 options. Some like one more than the other.
Curious, why do you find manumatics annoying? I find them an absolute delight. But this is why there are 2 options. Some like one more than the other.
Again, I'd take the paddles any day on track, but for day to day driving? Good ol manual.
Not sure the point of the question migs? We'd all be stuck with manumatics then, I guess.
I've test drove the MR and GSR... but... I just cant like the SST. Yes it shifts faster, and more precise... but I'm not on a track for 200 laps every weekend. The shifting times dont matter to me. I'd buy an MR strickly for a daily driver... work and back. The GSR for more agressive driving. But for now I'll stick with my IX.
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I test drove both the MR and GSR.
The SST was really amazing.
However, for regular preppy driving on the streets I did not think it provides the same level of driver engagement, especially for those who are used to manuals.
For the track, if faster laptimes are your priority, it is a completely different story.
The SST was really amazing.
However, for regular preppy driving on the streets I did not think it provides the same level of driver engagement, especially for those who are used to manuals.
For the track, if faster laptimes are your priority, it is a completely different story.
Heh man, you really need to do yourself a favor and drive an MR. You're sounding foolish. I drove a GSR, but never got above 80. I've driven my MR very spirited and 130mph is not hard to hit what so ever. I don't know if it's the extra gear or the quickened shifts, but to say you can't get above 100 on a track is nonsense. It's very easy in the MR, especially when you add that extra 80-100whp from mods. And yes, we're at 332whp is very easy on an MR.
Sure a GT-R is faster, but as Ryan Gates has proven a X (GSR OR MR) can easily beat a GT-R. It's all about the driver. The real test is taking a driver like Ryan, having the same speed car and seeing which one he gets better lap times in.
And again, we were comparing GSR vs MR, not Z06 to the MR. Fractions of a second over the GSR. And yes that adds up and adds up quickly. 1 second can be a straight away on a high speed track.
Sure a GT-R is faster, but as Ryan Gates has proven a X (GSR OR MR) can easily beat a GT-R. It's all about the driver. The real test is taking a driver like Ryan, having the same speed car and seeing which one he gets better lap times in.
And again, we were comparing GSR vs MR, not Z06 to the MR. Fractions of a second over the GSR. And yes that adds up and adds up quickly. 1 second can be a straight away on a high speed track.
that is probably is because of you we both know it, not the because of the Transmission. Or you just stretching here... LOL
Both car should be run close same top speed on the same track same time. Fact the GSr should pull the higher top speed /slightly/ even when the MR would run faster lap time, if... , /stock cars we are talking about/
where are you located? 
About the SST ...
It is a nice and great option. But i like to race my car and for that is simply just too expensive.
SO i rather get a sequential and rebuild it /for a same money or a little higher/ , then play around the oem geared - tuned - heavy SST. /with all the upgrades etc. you need for that around 7-8 grand,( some one stated 5-6 grand form the Mitshu the SST)/
SO if you talking about serious racing, since you guys talking about split seconds, then you know what i mean .
Also i think the SST makes the car a perfect hybrid between DD and track days. But you cant be pro in both.
If you raced or racing as some of you claimed , then you should know this.
So from there the SST is great as what it is, but as today stands , the 5 speed manual is the tranny you need for serious racing. /get a new clutch though LOL /
It is a nice and great option. But i like to race my car and for that is simply just too expensive.
SO i rather get a sequential and rebuild it /for a same money or a little higher/ , then play around the oem geared - tuned - heavy SST. /with all the upgrades etc. you need for that around 7-8 grand,( some one stated 5-6 grand form the Mitshu the SST)/
SO if you talking about serious racing, since you guys talking about split seconds, then you know what i mean .
Also i think the SST makes the car a perfect hybrid between DD and track days. But you cant be pro in both.
If you raced or racing as some of you claimed , then you should know this.
So from there the SST is great as what it is, but as today stands , the 5 speed manual is the tranny you need for serious racing. /get a new clutch though LOL /
"I drove a GSR, but never got above 80. I've driven my MR very spirited and 130mph is not hard to hit what so ever. "
that is probably is because of you we both know it, not the because of the Transmission. Or you just stretching here... LOL
Both car should be run close same top speed on the same track same time. Fact the GSr should pull the higher top speed /slightly/ even when the MR would run faster lap time, if... , /stock cars we are talking about/
Its impressive thought. Where did you do rally? we should do a rally event or hill climb together where are you located?
that is probably is because of you we both know it, not the because of the Transmission. Or you just stretching here... LOL
Both car should be run close same top speed on the same track same time. Fact the GSr should pull the higher top speed /slightly/ even when the MR would run faster lap time, if... , /stock cars we are talking about/
Its impressive thought. Where did you do rally? we should do a rally event or hill climb together
where are you located? 
. I wasn't saying it was because of the transmission. I'm a navi
. Need one? LOL
About the SST ...
It is a nice and great option. But i like to race my car and for that is simply just too expensive.
SO i rather get a sequential and rebuild it /for a same money or a little higher/ , then play around the oem geared - tuned - heavy SST. /with all the upgrades etc. you need for that around 7-8 grand,( some one stated 5-6 grand form the Mitshu the SST)/
SO if you talking about serious racing, since you guys talking about split seconds, then you know what i mean .
Also i think the SST makes the car a perfect hybrid between DD and track days. But you cant be pro in both.
If you raced or racing as some of you claimed , then you should know this.
So from there the SST is great as what it is, but as today stands , the 5 speed manual is the tranny you need for serious racing. /get a new clutch though LOL /
It is a nice and great option. But i like to race my car and for that is simply just too expensive.
SO i rather get a sequential and rebuild it /for a same money or a little higher/ , then play around the oem geared - tuned - heavy SST. /with all the upgrades etc. you need for that around 7-8 grand,( some one stated 5-6 grand form the Mitshu the SST)/
SO if you talking about serious racing, since you guys talking about split seconds, then you know what i mean .
Also i think the SST makes the car a perfect hybrid between DD and track days. But you cant be pro in both.
If you raced or racing as some of you claimed , then you should know this.
So from there the SST is great as what it is, but as today stands , the 5 speed manual is the tranny you need for serious racing. /get a new clutch though LOL /
But when it comes to SERIOUS, every weekend racing. I'd take a sequential over the 5-speed and SST. But with that being said, the SST has been proven, the X that competed in the 24hour race for the last two years was a highly built SST tranny inside.
i have my navi and that is my wife... how can i thorw her out???
seriously come out for hill climb its awesome you can run the SST there /stock car/
There has been quite a bit of mis-conception on the price of the SST lately. SSP can sell a fully upgraded SST for ~4.5k with a core. No where NEAR the ~$12k some people have been talking!
But when it comes to SERIOUS, every weekend racing. I'd take a sequential over the 5-speed and SST. But with that being said, the SST has been proven, the X that competed in the 24hour race for the last two years was a highly built SST tranny inside.
But when it comes to SERIOUS, every weekend racing. I'd take a sequential over the 5-speed and SST. But with that being said, the SST has been proven, the X that competed in the 24hour race for the last two years was a highly built SST tranny inside.
Still for serious racing the sq, tranny is a way to go. Also in rally the 5MT is more reilable. No oil cooler, less drama - example no ecu for the tranny etc.
In racing the rule of thumb---> KISS.
so are you saying the SST is $4.5 grand with the necessary upgrades? So you pay $4.5 K and you got the race ready SST you need to just install it?
That is seems a a great deal. How reliable those SSt-s? Any feed back /reliable/ ?
Last edited by Robevo RS; Aug 14, 2010 at 08:11 AM.
i know they runned that car in my country in hungary too, 24 hour is not as hard as you think .They do not run the cars 100% for obvious reasons. Im not saying its easy on the car , but also they do not run the car as a 2 hour race guys or the rally guys who runs it 150 miles.
Still for serious racing the sq, tranny is a way to go. Also in rally the 5MT is more reilable. No oil cooler, less drama - example no ecu for the tranny etc.
In racing the rule of thumb---> KISS.
so are you saying the SST is $4.5 grand with the necessary upgrades? So you pay $4.5 K and you got the race ready SST you need to just install it?
That is seems a a great deal. How reliable those SSt-s? Any feed back /reliable/ ?
Still for serious racing the sq, tranny is a way to go. Also in rally the 5MT is more reilable. No oil cooler, less drama - example no ecu for the tranny etc.
In racing the rule of thumb---> KISS.
so are you saying the SST is $4.5 grand with the necessary upgrades? So you pay $4.5 K and you got the race ready SST you need to just install it?
That is seems a a great deal. How reliable those SSt-s? Any feed back /reliable/ ?
quickly replaced them no questions asked, but we're talking just a few cases. Yes on the 4.5k for a race ready SST with the 500whp clutch packs / seals.
One of the guys that programmed the SST for the 24 hour race works for getrag. He's often on the other forum. He gives a ton of feedback and helps out when needed for the programming.
/agreed on the KISS aspect. One thing I'd worry about is taking the cooler out, much like taking the engine oil cooler out on the CT9A chassis during a rally.
I'll crew for you if you like! (You can drive my MR)
The SST reliability in the Evo X is great, not that great in the Ralliart. Not sure if it's the programming or the weaker clutch packs in the Ralliart, but they seem to go out after 20k miles and limited mods. The X SST has been holding up very well with everyone. A few issues here and there, but quickly replaced them no questions asked, but we're talking just a few cases.
Yes on the 4.5k for a race ready SST with the 500whp clutch packs / seals.
One of the guys that programmed the SST for the 24 hour race works for getrag. He's often on the other forum. He gives a ton of feedback and helps out when needed for the programming.
/agreed on the KISS aspect. One thing I'd worry about is taking the cooler out, much like taking the engine oil cooler out on the CT9A chassis during a rally.
I'll crew for you if you like! (You can drive my MR)
quickly replaced them no questions asked, but we're talking just a few cases. Yes on the 4.5k for a race ready SST with the 500whp clutch packs / seals.
One of the guys that programmed the SST for the 24 hour race works for getrag. He's often on the other forum. He gives a ton of feedback and helps out when needed for the programming.
/agreed on the KISS aspect. One thing I'd worry about is taking the cooler out, much like taking the engine oil cooler out on the CT9A chassis during a rally.
I'll crew for you if you like! (You can drive my MR)
Cool we will talk about it
after 10000 miles in my MR i absolutely hate the tranny. in normal situations its bearable but when merging with traffic the delay to acceleration in first is ridiculous. i've nearly been killed on several occasions while flooring it to get into a very large gap in traffic due to the lag.
when driving spiritedly and maneuvering through turns this comes back when coming back on the gas after braking.
it does shift fast and if all you want to do is accelerate then its pretty neat, i guess. but in real life i use both the brakes and the gas.
i hate the MR tranny and wish i never woulda bought it. shoulda got the gsr.
when driving spiritedly and maneuvering through turns this comes back when coming back on the gas after braking.
it does shift fast and if all you want to do is accelerate then its pretty neat, i guess. but in real life i use both the brakes and the gas.
i hate the MR tranny and wish i never woulda bought it. shoulda got the gsr.