The other two cars are my Mini (daily driver) and and the fiancee's Civic. I would part with the Evo before the Mini and the fiancee needs her car.

I believe you mean ASD, not AWC. To my knowledge, the AWC is not meant to be disabled.

I can certainly be a faster driver in the Evo, no question, but I push the car within a level that I'm comfortable with. In an effort to keep the car in one piece, I think I'll keep it that way.

The point is that the Evo is very easy to drive fast. Brake in a straight line, turn, unwind wheel as you bleed on throttle and let the rear end sort itself. Tighten your lines with the throttle, left foot brake in tighter radius turns, and let the AWC/AYC do its magic.

It's impressive technology but it isn't necessarily a great driver's car.

 

You make a good point.

You make another very good point.

I think these two posts summarize my quandary.

 

I think you've got to go back and really think about what you want to get out of tracking your car.

Do you do it for fun?

Are you doing it to truly become a better driver?

Do you do it to eventually race competitively?

Once you can be honest with yourself about these questions, you'll know which car is right for you.

I do agree that the Evo is sometimes too easy to drive and that you don't fully learn how to really drive a car. An S2000 or Miata or Corvette would be a better learning car. But, it really depends on what you really want to do.

Good luck!

 

I know what you mean about the computer aids. Turn all that stuff off and learn how to drive the car raw!

More and more these days this is happening even in the sport bike world. When I was in the market for a new bike, I actually stayed away from all the computer aids, and slipper clutch, etc. Too much that takes control away from me. I actually prefer it that way.

However, when it rains, I turn off all that traction control and drift around all the corners in the Evo. Far too much fun, and you get to DRIVE the car.

 

Very true and fair. I do it for fun but I do want to become a better driver. I was riding along with an instructor friend of mine in his RX7 and was marveling at how much driver input is involved in going fast in it.

Then he rode in my car and he marveled at how little driver input is needed to drive fast in my Evo.

The other side of all of this is that (knock on wood) I can have a lot of fun sliding the rear end in the Evo with a lot less fear of putting it into a wall if I step outside of my own abilities. Considering the cost of either one of these cars, there is a tangible value to this with the Evo.

Anyway, this is simply an open discussion and I'm most likely going to keep the Evo because, in the end, I do HPDEs for fun and don't see myself ever pushing this hobby into the realm of competition.

Thank you for your reply. Good perspective.

 

No problem. Just trying to help. I know how tough this decision can be

It feels like the Evo is the better car for you. Sounds like you want to learn how to REALLY push it on the track. What you could learn in a RWD car wouldn't be easily translated into a car like the Evo.

I think you'll be able to get to be the driver you want to be and you'll be able to do it in the Evo

 

It sounds like a rally school would be good for you. Or at least an open field so you can get the feel of disrupting the weight and putting the car into a power slide. It was funny watching road course drivers at the rally school, they kept treating the dirt just like a road course

 

Keep the Evo. Drive it in the rain and snow for maximum enjoyment!

 

You don't need a reason to tell us why you don't want it per se, the real question is what the market will bear. It has only been like 45 days since unsold 2008's more or less have become hard to find and the cash on the street is still really tight- is there any demand to go with the limited supply pushing the price to a good level?

I figure to wait until next year to see what prices are like. my guess is it will still be the same next spring, so just drive it for a few months more.

 

keep the evo

 

If you plan on using the S2000 as a daily driver keep the EVO. S2000's make for horrible daily drivers even compared to the EVO.

 

I disagree. I actually sold my 2005 Evo and bought a 2005 S2k. I prefer the S2k in every way compared to the Evo for a daily driver. It's a much nicer interior, you sit IN the car as opposed to ON the car, the tranny is way better, parts are cheaper, I get 25%-35% better gas mileage, and insurance is a tad cheaper. For 95% of what I use a car for, it's perfect. For the other 5%, I borrow a friend's car Keep in mind, I'm a single guy living in an apartment, so I don't have kids to haul or have to make runs to Home Depot.

I've tracked and auto-x'd the S2k (within two weeks of getting it), and you have to be much more mindful of your steering and throttle inputs compared to the Evo. If you want more perspective, search for a thread by David Buschur on his first track day experience. He asked the question, "take the Evo or take the Eclipse?" I suggested taking the Eclipse. Read his experiences from his track day on why the Evo is not an ideal car to learn to drive in.

MrBonus, another option, get a trailer and a kart

 

If you want to be a better driver, just take out your Mini Cooper to an autox. You can push the limits and do it safely.

 

for daily you will be loosing the extra space you have with the evo. I can understand your situation, I have driven both cars and I feel more connected sitting in the s2k than the evo. Good luck on your decision.

 

dont do it! youll regret it for sure