Automobile mag - Evolution MR - Four Seasons Wrap-up
I notice they also say the MR has a weight advantage over the GSR. Isn't it the other way around?
I'm used to the lag off the line and have adjusted accordingly so I don't really notice it that much. It definately hasn't gotten any worse over time.
Another positive is that they had no mechanical issues with their car nor did Road & Track, C&D, or Edmunds. The 08+ STI has been miserable in this regard.
I'm used to the lag off the line and have adjusted accordingly so I don't really notice it that much. It definately hasn't gotten any worse over time.
Another positive is that they had no mechanical issues with their car nor did Road & Track, C&D, or Edmunds. The 08+ STI has been miserable in this regard.
lol i love that you assume this.
every dual clutch driver i've ever seen has crazily defended their automated manual every time someone calls it an automatic (except for most of you evo guys
), ESPECIALLY m3 dct drivers.. in the end, it's a transmission that automatically shifts for you - an automatic transmission. just not the traditional torque converter.
it lags, so what.. they all do, and doesn't the improvements in the ratios greatly improve the acceleration in the '10 models?
every dual clutch driver i've ever seen has crazily defended their automated manual every time someone calls it an automatic (except for most of you evo guys
it lags, so what.. they all do, and doesn't the improvements in the ratios greatly improve the acceleration in the '10 models?
The lag they refer to is more the stopping and going in auto mode, its take a second for it to down shift and engage.
These two trannies are not even in the same class, The SST will out perform the GSR any day, any way if they have equal hp. But yes the SST cant handle the power the other can at this point.
Also for a decent pull without the launch control just , click traction off once, not the full off and left foot the brake, get it up to 3500 and its pretty impressive, not neck snapping like the launch but i'm sure not as damaging also
When its in manual mode, its a manual, many other manumatics will shift if you reach the redline this will not. The only difference is you do not need the left foot and its faster.
The lag they refer to is more the stopping and going in auto mode, its take a second for it to down shift and engage.
These two trannies are not even in the same class, The SST will out perform the GSR any day, any way if they have equal hp. But yes the SST cant handle the power the other can at this point.
The lag they refer to is more the stopping and going in auto mode, its take a second for it to down shift and engage.
These two trannies are not even in the same class, The SST will out perform the GSR any day, any way if they have equal hp. But yes the SST cant handle the power the other can at this point.
anyway, ive taken a test drive. i didn't notice any lag that i wouldn't expect from a car that doesn't require your left foot
you just proved my point... the definition of an automatic transmission is that it shifts for you. we're not talking manumatics, we're talkin about dual clutch manuals. i'm not saying it's slower. i'm saying it shifts automatically for you. this seems to drive dual clutch drivers nuts though.
anyway, ive taken a test drive. i didn't notice any lag that i wouldn't expect from a car that doesn't require your left foot
anyway, ive taken a test drive. i didn't notice any lag that i wouldn't expect from a car that doesn't require your left foot
at the least, the SST has one helluva manual mode. very, very, very few auto-manuals allow you to bounce off the rev limit all day, everyday...
Last edited by madfast; Jan 6, 2010 at 04:18 PM.
the problem is that the SST is designed to be a clutchless paddle-shift manual with an automatic mode. NOT an auto with a manual mode...
at the least, the SST has one helluva manual mode. very, very, very few auto-manuals allow you to bounce off the rev limit all day, everyday...
at the least, the SST has one helluva manual mode. very, very, very few auto-manuals allow you to bounce off the rev limit all day, everyday...
what im trying to say is that mitsu chose to do what is considered sporty even if they didnt have to. they really did a good job with the SST in terms of catering to enthusiasts... the pull back for upshift? the regular joe calls it backwards. us enthusiasts? we know that's the right way to do things...
Last edited by madfast; Jan 6, 2010 at 10:36 PM.
The dealer over here gives me problems with just the intake and exhaust. I imagine the trouble that I would go through if I show up with the trans broken and modds on the car.
Thanks for the info.
I haven't launch my X yet too scared to mess the trans up. (The 4.8s was without a launch.)
The dealer over here gives me problems with just the intake and exhaust. I imagine the trouble that I would go through if I show up with the trans broken and modds on the car.
The dealer over here gives me problems with just the intake and exhaust. I imagine the trouble that I would go through if I show up with the trans broken and modds on the car.

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