no because almost all racing series rules ban AWD. if F1 allowed AWD it would make the cars so fast they would kill people if you crash. RIP senna. same reason why the 1000 hp turbo f1 cars were banned. same reason why the group b rally cars were banned. same reason why nascar uses restrictor plates at daytona and talladega...

 

I am pretty certain everyone will disagree with the fact that AWD doesn't handle as well as RWD...

 

The fastest race cars are RWD while the fastest street cars are AWD. Where do you spend most of your time driving? And besides, race cars are completely different animals than street cars. What is good for a race car may not be good for a street car. And you say "Ultimately, better handling" which is a subjective measure IMO. Find me a RWD car that weighs the same as the GT-R that can hang with it around a racetrack.

 

Fact? Guess you've never heard of the Nissan GT-R.

 

I am saying a properly setup AWD system is superior from a physics stand point...are you asking the guy ******* AWD or me if I have heard of the GTR, can't tell from your post.

 

1.) easy, add more power to offset it.
2.) this is not set in stone. depends on how you implement the AWD system. GT-R uses mid mounted transaxle.
3.) easy add more power to offset it.
4.) again. you can easily design around this issue. GT-R can divert power 100% to rear wheels.
5.) WRONG. see above. nothing set in stone. its all about HOW you implement it. is it gonna be cheap? probably not...

 

The staffer is a moron if he believes that an EVO should be luxurios


Finally we can agree on something. but which car costs more?

 

To be honest with you guys, I didn't buy my X because of how great it performs when its stock. I bought it because of how great it can perform with mild upgrades. It is a tuner car and thats that. I like doing pulls while logging with evoscan and changing maps with open source. I love how I can change my oil and not have the dealer reset my maintenance schedule. I love how everyone is caught up on the expensive stock tires when you can get BETTER ones for much cheaper. If any one of us wanted a god damn BMW, we would have gotten one.

 

I'm sorry but this is just wrong. Are you aware what lengths F1 teams go to to eliminate every ounce of unnecessary weight? Why bother with AWD when they have such the potential to use such advanced traction control systems (banned after 2008)? For a few tenths off the line? Please.

 

Unless you're comparing everything to the Bugatti Veyron, this is wrong. And that's hardly the best example when you're talking about handling.

Ferrari has no AWD models. Porsche's flagship cars, with the exception of the nearly 30-year-old 959, are RWD. The upcoming McLaren MP4-12C is RWD. There is a reason for this.

The GT-R weighs so much for a reason. Lose the AWD, you lose the weight. Lose the weight, you go faster. Different philosophies for the same goal.

 

You do realize that the GT-R outperforms lighter RWD cars that have the same power around a ractrack? Corvette Z06 comes to mind. The Vette Handles like a dream (would have finished 4th in the VIR lightning lap if it were included. The slower Corvette grandsport finished 5th), is much lighter than the GT-R, has the same power, but cannot beat the heavier GTR around a racetrack. Reason? The Vette is RWD.

 

The F1 rules state that the car has to be RWD. So this is a moot point.

Street cars and race cars couldn't be any more different. If the rules stated that an F1 car had to weigh at least 1800 kilos instead of 1100 kilos, then you would see more AWD systems (if the rules allowed it).

 

1) Resulting in worse fuel economy, worse tire wear, more wear on the components. Basically, worse everything from a performance standpoint. Less weight is better than more power.

2) The hardware needed to send power to the front wheels will make the front of the car heavier. If the engine is already up there, simply mounting the trans in the back isn't going to suddenly give it perfect balance.

3) Now add the same power to the RWD car. You're still behind.

4) Lots of AWD cars can. But they all send power to the front as soon as the rear
begins to slip. So unless you feel like disconnecting the front axles, you're stuck.

5) There used to be a series of racing called Can-Am. No rules. Anything goes. Porsche dominated it with the 917/30. 1580 bhp on high boost. 1800 pounds. RWD. Why didn't they use AWD with open rules?

 

Amen!!

 

Because there were no rules for weight. If they were required to have the car weigh close to what street cars weigh, there would be AWD systems.

And how do you explain Audi being banned from racing for having an "Unfair advantage" (thier AWD system). They were wiping the floor with the RWD cars and the only advantage they had was that the cars were AWD.