It's been several years since Evom had a project car, so I've made mine one.

She's in the early stages of upgrades, so bear with me as I get going. This will be a discussion and update thread, so I will post up when I add more content to the front of the site. As time goes on, I intend to try to write about the car more often.

Here's a brief overview and introduction:
https://www.evolutionm.net/features/article.php?id=130

Here's the new CBRD front mount intercooler and upper IC pipe install (I just completed this one tonight):
https://www.evolutionm.net/features/article.php?id=132

This is an older article I used my car for when I compared it with a good friend's IX, and a local musuem's Evo VI Tommi Makinen Ed.
https://www.evolutionm.net/features/article.php?id=115

From this point, I hope to go with a turbo and 1000cc injectors so I could add E85 later. Any opinions on turbos from you guys? My intention is to stay stock clutch and stock cams. I had those things on my VIII, and I don't really want to go that route this time unless I have to.

I'm thinking BBX Lite because it should be great with stock cams. I have a line on a used Dom2 from a friend, so I am considering that too.

A huge thanks to all the guys that have helped me out with parts and tuning so far: Darryl at Ultimate Racing, Razorlab (Bryan from GST), Chad from CBRD Speedfactory, and Andrew and Bruce (formerly of Dyno4mance, which closed back in 2009).

Thanks for reading,

Seth

 

sick!

I think that if you're planning on running e85 that you should definitely go for larger injectors. Possibly FIC 1680cc High-Z's, and definitely a DW300 lph fuel pump. This will give you the headroom, as well as the fuel pressure to safely fit your needs, especially when e85 is involved.

Regarding the clutch, I think you should upgrade it to something along the lines of an ACT HDSS or something in that region. It'll drive like stock and handle the power.

Regarding the turbo, I love what I have seen from all of CBRD's turbo's, their service, and the quality of their product. It'll match their FMIC and UICP that are already on the car. Might as well continue the power adder theme and get a nice combo that's designed to work together. BBX-lite gets the nod from me. The BBX-lite has shown to spool great and have a nice fat powerband which will definitely suit your needs since the car is meant to do it all.

-Jalal

 

Thanks for posting.

I don't really want to do a clutch at all. I had an HDSS on my VIII, and I didn't like the heavier pedal; as time went on, it also had a little issue with high RPM lockout. In the X, there's that whole master cylinder failure stuff and then the differential pin problems to consider when launching on pretty much any aftermarket clutch. All that to say, I have no intention to drag race this car. The older Evos are a lot more suited to that since they are lighter and have higher fourth gear speed potential anyway.

For what I want to accomplish power-wise, 1000cc should be plenty according to Bryan. I'd run 93 most of the time due to convenience of less fill ups.

 

I'll be checking here for your progress. Noize, I thought you sold your car. I did consider yours when I was in the market for one. I remember even mapquesting your location if I needed to drive all the way.

 

BBX Lite
DW850cc fuel injectors
stock fuel pump

Would make for a great pump-gas street setup

 

No worries! I'm surprised that I'm the only person who has posted so far!

It seems you're dead set on not changing the clutch out which is fine. I guess clutch's willingness to hold the power after the turbo is installed will be the determining factor. Hopefully it does hold! God knows the $$$ for clutch and labor would be awesome to avoid.

I've run the ACT HDSS in my daily driven IX MR for over 55k miles and it's not heavy AT ALL. It was installed in the car when I bought it, and I could not even tell that it was aftermarket. Pedal, engagement, and the experience as a whole was great. No lock out, and great shifting, even when being launched. Just wanted to make sure you have my experience with the clutch. I'll actually be sticking with ACT when I upgrade since my clutch as begun to slip in higher gears under load at low rpm.

Bryan is a master at what he does, and if he says 1000cc injectors will be fine for what you need, I'd go with it. FIC makes some 1100cc High-Z injectors which has been working pretty well from what I've read. You can rock those and be good to go. I'd also throw a pump in there as well while you're at it. Why risk running low on pressure. Check out scheides' thread here and read of his escapades. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...rx-round1.html

My advise to you, especially being that this is your own personal daily driver, is to make sure that you take care of the common upgrades while you're modifying. I know a lot of people have mentioned that upgrading a fuel pump isn't necessarily needed on a mildly upgraded X, but I definitely would do it for piece of mind. Your wife seeing your bumper off your car is one thing... imagine if she saw your motor apart in the garage because you melted a piston. Sorry hun buns!

-Jalal

 

Haha, just saw your post, Krack. I'd definitely upgrade the fuel pump, I don't care how reliable it's claimed to have been so far. You're already upgrading the turbo and injector capacity. Also, on a very mild tune, the 850's might be fine, but I know scheides maxed out his 800's at 27psi tapered to 23psi at redline. Bump it up in capacity a little for piece of mine, especially if e85 could be in the equation.

-Jalal

 

Scheides has a BBX though plus has cams.

 

Correct, but e85 means more cc's. The setup suggested will def work, don't get me wrong. I'd just hate to be close to maxing out the setup and have to purchase parts twice. Especially when the higher capacity offering will run just as nicely. Long term setup in mind.

-Jalal

 

HKS GTII 7460 turbo for super fast spool and power.

http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=3869

 

Like I said in my post....PUMP GAS. Obviously for E85 he'll need larger injectors and a pump.

 

Jalal's points are all right, I think there's a happy medium between what you and kracka suggested:

BBX Lite
FIC 1100cc injectors
stock fuel pump

If you keep things conservative and on pump gas you'll probably get some good life out of your stock clutch (as long as you are nice to it). Keep boost down and you'll be totally safe.

Then if you really get serious about the e85 conversion, throw in a walbro 255 (the DW300 or similar pumps would be overkill if you plan on just rocking this turbo for the foreseeable future) and make the switch, then start saving for a clutch. Whether its another stock clutch or something aftermarket, its gonna come sooner than later on a setup like this!

Just my $.02

 

we concur.

-Jalal

 

So what's your target whp? And this BBX Lite turbo, how is it compared to FP green and other turbos?
I think I might have the same goal with you there noize, a DD evo x with comfort and performance.

 

I decided to keep it, and am really glad I did. Ft. Wayne is a long haul from here. I went to school at Purdue and moved from there to here.

E85 would be later. I don't mind revising from 1000cc to 1100cc for a little extra insurance. I would definitely keep stock fuel pump for now.

I'm accustomed to Dyno Dynamics, which reads lowest of all. My car made 222whp stock, I'd like to see 340whp on 93. I'd guess that would be about 385whp Dynojet.

Unsure on Green vs. BBX Lite, but assume they are close. I haven't looked into the Green.