too many miles?
This must be, because the person who wants to take a Mitsubishi Evo for a test drive is the same guy as the one contending for a brand new 458 Italia, treating it identically before passing it off to the actual buyer, right? Or, is one to understand that the test miles racked on by the Ferrari factory pilot are the same as the ones put on by Billy Bob lunching the frucker up and down the parking lot?
Its great that the OP is a bit suspicious and maybe he can leverage a bit of a discount but 110 miles on a new car is completely normal especially if its been driven home once or twice by a sales rep.
My 02 WRX when purchased "new" had 200+ miles on it. I was told the sales manager was driving it to and from work for "fun." My WRX's motor broke a piston at 50k miles, stock turbo.. Only ran 16 psi (14 was stock I believe?).
My '11 GSR had 5 miles. It wasn't ever test driven - dealer said they had a strict policy and only used their '10 GSR on the lot for test drives.
In other words, I personally wouldn't buy any car that's been joy ridden. I'm sure it's been beat to heck off the lot. And I say you shouldn't beat on a motor until at least 250 miles.. Most people will say be easy for the first 1000 miles. There's no end all be all knowledge on break in periods; there's plenty of evidence that you can rag on the motor straight off the lot, even an Evo. Personally I would give it a few hundred miles to let the motor settle in though.
Good luck!
My '11 GSR had 5 miles. It wasn't ever test driven - dealer said they had a strict policy and only used their '10 GSR on the lot for test drives.
In other words, I personally wouldn't buy any car that's been joy ridden. I'm sure it's been beat to heck off the lot. And I say you shouldn't beat on a motor until at least 250 miles.. Most people will say be easy for the first 1000 miles. There's no end all be all knowledge on break in periods; there's plenty of evidence that you can rag on the motor straight off the lot, even an Evo. Personally I would give it a few hundred miles to let the motor settle in though.
Good luck!
Some would call it life experience from 30 behind the wheel. What's better - others thinking you're paranoid, or enjoying a trouble-free high-performance automobile for years to come with no worries? I kinda like the latter.
Yes, it's not unusual to see 110 miles on a typical new car and if this were a car buying forum occupied by mom and pop looking for a new minivan, we'd all agree. But, it's not. It is unusual to see 110 miles on a new Evolution.
A proportional discount truly hinges on one's personal level of acceptance and a few accounting values. If the discount isn't large enough to pay for a new clutch, it's not a discount. Similarly, if the discount is that small, a new car can be found for the same money, so why even contemplate such an action in the first place? Doesn't really make sense.
Its great that the OP is a bit suspicious and maybe he can leverage a bit of a discount but 110 miles on a new car is completely normal especially if its been driven home once or twice by a sales rep.
A proportional discount truly hinges on one's personal level of acceptance and a few accounting values. If the discount isn't large enough to pay for a new clutch, it's not a discount. Similarly, if the discount is that small, a new car can be found for the same money, so why even contemplate such an action in the first place? Doesn't really make sense.
7009 miles later, as good as new! So much so that it even beats my friend's Whicked White one which he got with 0 miles stock for stock... Mine's blessed, just like my Ralliart...
oh wait, maybe it's just the driver not the car...
Nothing at all do to with the modifications you put on your WRX after you bought it? And the way you drove it for the 50 thousand miles in between?
Anyway, no one is going to be convinced either way. From my experience 95% of people don't care about initial mileage as long as it's under 1k. 5% of people care but they seem like the particularly vocal ones on internet forums.
As I said earlier, you are the one putting down the money, so buy the car under your own conditions. If you have OCD and it's always going to bug you during your ownership period about those few initial miles, then I'd say it's worth it to pass on this car.
Bought my Evo X at about 45~ miles. No problems so far (@15000 miles).
What I was happy about for the initial 45~ miles was that I was able to bring the price down (not sure if it was alot to some people?).
*edit: Negotiation was a b****
What I was happy about for the initial 45~ miles was that I was able to bring the price down (not sure if it was alot to some people?).
*edit: Negotiation was a b****
Last edited by AzureCalamity; Feb 8, 2012 at 07:33 PM.
bought mine with 6 miles on it. I wouldn't have and issue with more miles, but I would expect them to give you a little better deal. My Shelby only had 3.2 miles on it also. That was the lowest I have ever seen a new car have. Was very please to see that.
... so you had a problem with your piston after 50,000 miles because the dealer drove it a couple times during the first 200 miles?
Nothing at all do to with the modifications you put on your WRX after you bought it? And the way you drove it for the 50 thousand miles in between?
Anyway, no one is going to be convinced either way. From my experience 95% of people don't care about initial mileage as long as it's under 1k. 5% of people care but they seem like the particularly vocal ones on internet forums.
As I said earlier, you are the one putting down the money, so buy the car under your own conditions. If you have OCD and it's always going to bug you during your ownership period about those few initial miles, then I'd say it's worth it to pass on this car.
Nothing at all do to with the modifications you put on your WRX after you bought it? And the way you drove it for the 50 thousand miles in between?
Anyway, no one is going to be convinced either way. From my experience 95% of people don't care about initial mileage as long as it's under 1k. 5% of people care but they seem like the particularly vocal ones on internet forums.
As I said earlier, you are the one putting down the money, so buy the car under your own conditions. If you have OCD and it's always going to bug you during your ownership period about those few initial miles, then I'd say it's worth it to pass on this car.
My point was that if you take an engine made of glass and drive it hard, the faster it will pop. It was also a subtle stab at Subaru on my part.. disappointed in how weak those engines were back then. I hear they are a bit stronger now but don't really know.
I bough my evo 8 new with 1,300 dealer miles on it....it was their show/press events car.
I drove it 96,000 miles with 90,000 of those miles at 330whp. No issues whatsoever. None. Stock clutch lasted 58,000 miles. Tracked and autocrossed.
I drove it 96,000 miles with 90,000 of those miles at 330whp. No issues whatsoever. None. Stock clutch lasted 58,000 miles. Tracked and autocrossed.
Some would call it life experience from 30 behind the wheel. What's better - others thinking you're paranoid, or enjoying a trouble-free high-performance automobile for years to come with no worries? I kinda like the latter.
Yes, it's not unusual to see 110 miles on a typical new car and if this were a car buying forum occupied by mom and pop looking for a new minivan, we'd all agree. But, it's not. It is unusual to see 110 miles on a new Evolution.
A proportional discount truly hinges on one's personal level of acceptance and a few accounting values. If the discount isn't large enough to pay for a new clutch, it's not a discount. Similarly, if the discount is that small, a new car can be found for the same money, so why even contemplate such an action in the first place? Doesn't really make sense.
Yes, it's not unusual to see 110 miles on a typical new car and if this were a car buying forum occupied by mom and pop looking for a new minivan, we'd all agree. But, it's not. It is unusual to see 110 miles on a new Evolution.
A proportional discount truly hinges on one's personal level of acceptance and a few accounting values. If the discount isn't large enough to pay for a new clutch, it's not a discount. Similarly, if the discount is that small, a new car can be found for the same money, so why even contemplate such an action in the first place? Doesn't really make sense.
I completely agree on your second point but I don't think OP said there's another car in the same trim/color with lower miles on it.
My 03 had 99 miles on it when I bought it after it sat on the lot for about eight months. I drove it daily for over five years and 50k and it was flawless -- not one single thing went wrong. These cars are quite robust and all the worry about potential damage done on test drives tend to border on the paranoid.
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