This is completely false. Both the K&N and the ETS retain the stock MAF housings and they're both going to flow the same amount of air, though how much airflow does not matter as long as the MAF can properly measure for it (hence retaining the stock MAF housing). Also, the stock tune does not suck. It is designed different than an custom performance tune as it has more roles to play, and it has to do all of them well. It has to perform safely on all cars, in all weather conditions, all altitudes, various blends of gasoline, various octane levels, various driving conditions, etc. Each year Mitsubishi has learned in what areas they can make the ECU more aggressive. No intake is going to give huge power gains. No intake is going to improve drivability (only make it worse if not properly designed) and will have very little impact on fuel mileage; but if you drive exactly the same you will see a slight increase due to decreased restriction, unless you do a lot of low-speed stop & go city driving in which case the hotter intake air of not having an enclosed box will actually hurt your mileage.

 

im not looking for the fastest evo in the world. i just want something reliable and an intake i dont have to tune.

 

great explanation kracka....base from your experience, what makes sense to do on the evo x?

 

I will be getting the K&N kit. Here is why. UICP is included, the kit was developed on a dyno and only leans out the AFR by 0.5, increasing it on a 2010 from 10 to 10.5 - this in effect allows for close to 20whp and 17lb-ft. NO TUNE is required after as the long term fuel trims are not affected in a negative way. Also you get a proper effective heat shield. This kit really is a no-brainer.




Have a read:

"MotoIQ Certified Legit! 293 hp @ 6995 rpm and 292 lb/ft of torque @ 4400 rpm, a gain of 16 hp and 16 lb/ft of torque. The peak gains were 20 hp @ 7000 rpm and 17 lb/ft of torque @ 4400 rpm. The air fuel ratio leaned out from an ultra rich 9.5:1 to a very conservative 10.5:1 which was probably responsible for some of the power gain. You can see that the turbo spooled slightly faster as well. You could definitely feel the power gains seat of the pants."


http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ir-intake.aspx

 

Go with the ETS. I'm running it on my car on stock tune, with the ETS V2 cat back. No problems. You can feel a power difference just bolting it on.

 

Ets

 

Right... so basically you have no idea how your AFR or long term fuel trims have been affected. Great advice.

 

I have an ETS intake and an Accessport. Using the stock intake OTS tunes, which I'm pretty sure use the stock MAF scaling, the LTFT is within acceptable limits and doesn't drift.

Not that you shouldn't make sure of all this on your own car when installing parts too

Also the MotoIQ review says the K&N intake is good. It doesn't compare it to anything to deem it better/best though, so I wouldn't necessarily call it a "no-brainer". An ebay intercooler might lower your intake temperature some over stock, but it doesn't make it a no-brainer to buy an ebay intercooler. In reality I'm sure both the intakes are fine, and you probably wouldn't notice any difference between them other than the UICP inclusion.

 

Do you have a catback? The reason why I chimed in, is that an intake such as ETS that utilizes a different MAF housing and catback will surely need a tune. The intake and the exhaust side are being freed from restrictions, the ecu on the evo x measures a plethora of parameters.

Have a look here, Magnus have built the fastest 4g63.

http://magnusmotorsports.com/product...intake-system/

There is a reason why AP has different tunes for different intakes. Try adding a catback to the mix and see what happens. Also, an intercooler prevents heatsoak and lowers intake temps fyi.

MotoIQ review is acurate and based on facts, your opinion is not.

 

hes saying no tune at least for now though...so AP is going a whole different direction....also the stock IC is a beast on these cars...you will be hardpressed to get heatsoak unless you start really climbing in HP...obviously it would only be a positive thing to get a bigger one and gain a few HP in the process but its by no means required for light boltons.

 

ETS and K&N use stock maf. No tune technically needed but can be risky depending on weather, altitude, combination of other bolt on's...

Stock tune, no wideband/afr gauge = works drop-in air filter
Tune + wideband/afr gauge = ETS intake > K&N IMHO.
If your gonna do it anyway on a stock tune do it with at least a wideband/afr gauge.

Good tune ain't cheap so might as well get tuned for more bolt on's at once.

 

everyone seems to say buy everything at once then tune. but i would be willing to be 95% of the people on here with bolt ons still put them on then waited for a tune with no damage. i dont have any other bolt ons . im just assuming the kn is safe to put on my car and drive if the long term fuel trim is acceptable. ill tune once i add a turbo back exhaust and other bolt ons all at once. seems like that is pretty safe

 

I have a catback and test pipe, and am using the OTS stage 2 stock intake tune. There is a reason the AP has tunes for different intakes, and that reason is different intakes use different MAF housings from stock. The two intakes in question here do not. I gave you quantitative data that the LTFT are normal with the ETS intake (a lot more normal than the MotoIQ review found for the K&N kit in fact) and that they aren't drifting. No opinion.


You missed the point of my post. The MotoIQ says what the K&N kit does. It doesn't say what any other kits do. Therefore it doesn't tell you the K&N kit is better than X kit or Y kit. Like I said, I'm sure both kits are good. Until someone tests them back to back on the same car on the same day, who knows which is better.

And that's exactly what I said an intercooler does.

 

ETS does not require tune and it use's K&N filter anyways.

 

Ets.