New to me - EVOX owner here
Jan 7, 2019, 07:34 AM
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New to me - EVOX owner here
I'm not a new member, in fact been here since 2012 (I think) and own a 2006 IX (Electric Blue). For the holidays, I was given the opportunity to purchase a used but low mileage 2015 Final Edition and fully took advantage of the deal. Upon making the purchase official, I then decided that my '06 IX will officially become a dedicated track car. I'm excited about refreshing the motor, transmission, clutch and even replacing "tired/worn" bushings.
Anyways, here's my initial thoughts on the EVOX (new to me). It's definitely more user friendly and would definitely be more comfortable in long drives as compared to the IX however there's a night and day difference.
The IX is a fire-breathing monster as compared to this X-FE. I know it's a little unfair to compare however I can't imagine that a flashed ECU and basic bolt-on's make that much of a difference. Don't get me wrong, the X is quick in it's own right but compared to the IX, it's not close. Maybe I just need to get used to the X and proceed with the "break-in" period as I purchased it a few days before Christmas (last month) with under 10K miles.
Here's my quick analogy as a comparison between the 2 cars: The IX is straight-forward like a shot of very good whiskey while the X (at this point anyhow) is like a shot of the same whiskey however "watered-down" with a cube in the shot glass.
The X will now be closer to a "daily driver" now so in the near future will make subtle changes to it for improvements.
Just a quick summary: My IX was conservatively/tastefully modified with Ohlins R&T coilovers, Cusco Front/Rear sway bars and strut towers, Stoptech rotors and Hawk Pads, K&N Cone Filter (attached to MAF), Greddy Full TB Exhaust, and AMS Stage 2 or 3 flash ecu tune (I forget as this was done at AMS a few years back when I was still living in Chicago). Stock motor, intercooler, ignition, transmission, and clutch. As you can see, conservative...
But it's hard to believe that the above mentioned things done to the IX seem to make it much more fun and a "drivers" car versus the X. Could it be the X isn't really all that it's up to be OR was the IX really that good and ahead of its time? Maybe it's just me getting older now and that I'm just so used to the IX. I know that I'll probably take some heat with this post and will accept and understand the consequences. Your comments would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the rant and Happy Monday!
Anyways, here's my initial thoughts on the EVOX (new to me). It's definitely more user friendly and would definitely be more comfortable in long drives as compared to the IX however there's a night and day difference.
The IX is a fire-breathing monster as compared to this X-FE. I know it's a little unfair to compare however I can't imagine that a flashed ECU and basic bolt-on's make that much of a difference. Don't get me wrong, the X is quick in it's own right but compared to the IX, it's not close. Maybe I just need to get used to the X and proceed with the "break-in" period as I purchased it a few days before Christmas (last month) with under 10K miles.
Here's my quick analogy as a comparison between the 2 cars: The IX is straight-forward like a shot of very good whiskey while the X (at this point anyhow) is like a shot of the same whiskey however "watered-down" with a cube in the shot glass.
The X will now be closer to a "daily driver" now so in the near future will make subtle changes to it for improvements.
Just a quick summary: My IX was conservatively/tastefully modified with Ohlins R&T coilovers, Cusco Front/Rear sway bars and strut towers, Stoptech rotors and Hawk Pads, K&N Cone Filter (attached to MAF), Greddy Full TB Exhaust, and AMS Stage 2 or 3 flash ecu tune (I forget as this was done at AMS a few years back when I was still living in Chicago). Stock motor, intercooler, ignition, transmission, and clutch. As you can see, conservative...
But it's hard to believe that the above mentioned things done to the IX seem to make it much more fun and a "drivers" car versus the X. Could it be the X isn't really all that it's up to be OR was the IX really that good and ahead of its time? Maybe it's just me getting older now and that I'm just so used to the IX. I know that I'll probably take some heat with this post and will accept and understand the consequences. Your comments would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the rant and Happy Monday!
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Jan 7, 2019, 12:52 PM
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That extra weight can really make a huge difference. I think about that when I have a few friends in my car and can't believe the difference in seat of the pants performance.
Jan 7, 2019, 05:36 PM
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That's a pretty good description of the differences of the IX and X. Let me elaborate a little bit further.
The VII VIII and IX were significantly lighter in weight than the X. So in just regular 1st 2nd and 3rd gear shifts, it certainly feels like the IX's have sling-shot like acceleration. Now the X with it's weight gain and new engine. It feels slow. Heavy. More sound deadening. Etc. Better daily driver. More suited for a long road trip cross country than the tin can rattle box that is the IX's and VIII's.
Where in the Northeast are you located?
The VII VIII and IX were significantly lighter in weight than the X. So in just regular 1st 2nd and 3rd gear shifts, it certainly feels like the IX's have sling-shot like acceleration. Now the X with it's weight gain and new engine. It feels slow. Heavy. More sound deadening. Etc. Better daily driver. More suited for a long road trip cross country than the tin can rattle box that is the IX's and VIII's.
Where in the Northeast are you located?
Jan 7, 2019, 09:01 PM
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To me, it seems like they focused more on handling and being a better daily with the X. Full bolt ons and tune really wakes the car up. I removed the spare and added a Tomei catback over the weekend to help with reducing weight which helped, but I can't help feeling like something is missing when driving it. Adding a Works Short Shifter is one of the best mods (IMO) you can possibly do to the car. Makes driving much more enjoyable. The IX seems to be fun right out the box which is what I gathered when I test drove one, but with the X, you have to spend a little $ to bring the animal out it.
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That's a pretty good description of the differences of the IX and X. Let me elaborate a little bit further.
The VII VIII and IX were significantly lighter in weight than the X. So in just regular 1st 2nd and 3rd gear shifts, it certainly feels like the IX's have sling-shot like acceleration. Now the X with it's weight gain and new engine. It feels slow. Heavy. More sound deadening. Etc. Better daily driver. More suited for a long road trip cross country than the tin can rattle box that is the IX's and VIII's.
Where in the Northeast are you located?
The VII VIII and IX were significantly lighter in weight than the X. So in just regular 1st 2nd and 3rd gear shifts, it certainly feels like the IX's have sling-shot like acceleration. Now the X with it's weight gain and new engine. It feels slow. Heavy. More sound deadening. Etc. Better daily driver. More suited for a long road trip cross country than the tin can rattle box that is the IX's and VIII's.
Where in the Northeast are you located?
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To me, it seems like they focused more on handling and being a better daily with the X. Full bolt ons and tune really wakes the car up. I removed the spare and added a Tomei catback over the weekend to help with reducing weight which helped, but I can't help feeling like something is missing when driving it. Adding a Works Short Shifter is one of the best mods (IMO) you can possibly do to the car. Makes driving much more enjoyable. The IX seems to be fun right out the box which is what I gathered when I test drove one, but with the X, you have to spend a little $ to bring the animal out it.
Great suggestions! It’s so new to me that just even last night after picking up some groceries I just noticed there wasn’t a keyhole for the trunk and actually took a sec (or two) to think before pressing the button on the key fob. Oh yeah, no key either. Be patient boys, I’m just so used to the IX.
For now, I’m gonna follow the proper break in for 15K/30K service before any mods. Was thinking about the Cobb upgrade packages. Don’t get me wrong the X is great and I really like it. It’s much more refined (even with the bad Lancer seats). It just has a lot of features. This morning it even flashed “Careful for icy roads” and thought to myself the IX never alerted me of anything except with the occasional amber low fuel warning light.
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That's a pretty good description of the differences of the IX and X. Let me elaborate a little bit further.
The VII VIII and IX were significantly lighter in weight than the X. So in just regular 1st 2nd and 3rd gear shifts, it certainly feels like the IX's have sling-shot like acceleration. Now the X with it's weight gain and new engine. It feels slow. Heavy. More sound deadening. Etc. Better daily driver. More suited for a long road trip cross country than the tin can rattle box that is the IX's and VIII's.
Where in the Northeast are you located?
The VII VIII and IX were significantly lighter in weight than the X. So in just regular 1st 2nd and 3rd gear shifts, it certainly feels like the IX's have sling-shot like acceleration. Now the X with it's weight gain and new engine. It feels slow. Heavy. More sound deadening. Etc. Better daily driver. More suited for a long road trip cross country than the tin can rattle box that is the IX's and VIII's.
Where in the Northeast are you located?
Jan 9, 2019, 10:45 AM
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Nicely said! Having both as well, I can very much relate lol. The CT9A is definitely a more "raw" driver/tuner car, and the CZ4A is undoubtedly more comfortable and "nicer" for daily duties (as mentioned, bigger/heavier, more sound deadening, and heated seats, if applicable). I also believe that the X has a nicer sound system from the factory. With that said, my X is still peppy and handles well, but my VIII is overall quicker.
X's trunk space will always suck though in comparison haha.
X's trunk space will always suck though in comparison haha.
Jan 18, 2019, 09:39 AM
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Ok, well, i plan to buy the X for a daily so the complaints look perfect for my situation.
The only thing I am worried about is the X recaros are 90% cloth vs leather/alcantara.
How do they feel?
Is it better to get a 2015 and just swap out the seats? Seem like there are more available (because of the seats).
The only thing I am worried about is the X recaros are 90% cloth vs leather/alcantara.
How do they feel?
Is it better to get a 2015 and just swap out the seats? Seem like there are more available (because of the seats).
Jan 18, 2019, 10:44 AM
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Ok, well, i plan to buy the X for a daily so the complaints look perfect for my situation.
The only thing I am worried about is the X recaros are 90% cloth vs leather/alcantara.
How do they feel?
Is it better to get a 2015 and just swap out the seats? Seem like there are more available (because of the seats).
The only thing I am worried about is the X recaros are 90% cloth vs leather/alcantara.
How do they feel?
Is it better to get a 2015 and just swap out the seats? Seem like there are more available (because of the seats).
Jan 18, 2019, 10:46 AM
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^^^ this. I DD my X as well and have no complaints about the recaro seats. Albeit, I’m 6’2 180 lbs. thin frame. I’ve had bigger bodied people complain about the seats so I guess that should noted.
