i like it im trading mine in when they come out

 

I was just Looking around the allpar web page & found this info...

Its a good read, This might be old news for some of you ?? If not Enjoy...

TOMMY B

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While Stuttgart may have decided that this transmission is too good for mere American vehicles, some of its technologies and patents will be used...large parts of it appear to be used by the Chrysler ME-412, and will no doubt show up in Mercedes supercars as well. In addition, Mitsubishi may use a "paddleshift dual-clutch gearbox" (part of the system) if they can get around the cost issues, in the Colt CZ3, a new sports car, and possibly in a higher-than-usual performance version of the Evo. This would be standard technology development — using low production quantities to do the finalization and manufacturing process development to the design.

Dieter Zetsche moving to Stuttgart may help in two ways - getting the ME-412 into production, and perhaps moving this transmission into the trucks for which it was apparently designed. It would be a major advantage, especially given that many see the Chrysler automatics as being “a reason not to buy;” some speculate that the Cummins turbodiesels are even being held back to avoid transmission damage.

Since it looks like you'll never see information on it from Chrysler, we've collected the information right here from public records.

Automatically shifted manual transmission: Chrysler patentsOctober 15, 2002: control of a dual clutch (manual) transmission, where the first clutch acts to transmit torque to the first driven gear, and the second clutch transmits torque to the second driven gear. Richard G. Reed, Jr.; Jeffrey P. Cherry. The goal is to make a far smoother manual transmission, while increasing efficiency and power transmission, without excessive heat buildup. But could this also be a step in creating an automatically operated manual transmission - one which shifts gears but still uses mechanical clutches instead of fluid? That would be far more efficient...wouldn't it?

An April 26, 2000 patent covers a way to display both the current gear and the position of the stick - so that you would know the gear ratio with an AutoStick regardless of whether you were in Drive or Manumatic mode. Likewise, May 2003 patent 6,569,058 describes a new, improved gearshift which is apparently much simpler in design than prior models.

A June 4, 2000 patent with inventor Donald L. Carriere carries forward with that theme - "an electro-mechanical automatic transmission having... a first input shaft and a second input shaft concentric with the first input shaft....with a pair of electro-mechanical clutch actuators for selectively disengaging dual clutches... as well as an electro-mechanical shift actuator system which operatively engage the synchronizer devices for selectively engaging the drive gears. ... The dual clutch system of the present invention includes two dry discs driven by a common flywheel assembly. Two electro-mechanical clutch actuators are provided to control disengagement of the two-clutch discs independently. Shifts are accomplished by engaging the desired gear prior to a shift event and subsequently engaging the corresponding clutch. ...The transmission of the present invention can be in two different gear ratios at once, but only one clutch will be engaged and transmitting power. To shift to the new gear ratio, the driving clutch will be released and the released clutch will be engaged. The two-clutch actuators perform a quick and smooth shift as directed by an on-board vehicle control system using closed-loop control reading engine RPMs or torque. The transmission shaft that is disengaged will then be shifted into the next gear ratio in anticipation of the next shift." Clever! We'll also note that a May 18 patent from Jeffrey P. Cherry is for an "electro-mechanical clutch actuator system ... for a transmission having dual input shafts with respective clutches."

Patent 6,491,147 describes a way to more easily add a clutch pedal to a car with an automatic. Why? We don't know. Maybe one of the patent engineers was feeling frisky.

Patent 6,490,517 (Phillip McGrath and Yi Cheng) gets to the more mundane question of being in the correct gear: "a method for determining a maximum performance gear for an automobile when performing acceleration/deceleration maneuvers and a system for enhancing a motor vehicle's gear indicator capabilities." The target is a manual transmission.

No new patent applications seem to have been filed in the past four months (Oct 2003), though that could simply be a result of our less than stellar competence at using the Patent Office's databases

 

Good read and find, but I do not see it maybe used in Evo X.

 

I think they should just use the semi auto out of the DB9

 

I don't understand how anyone can think this car looks like a domestic.
As far as I know, the VIII and IX look very bland in pictures but seriously
agressive in real life. When you look at the comparison photo of the IX MR and the Concept X, the IX looks very bland. That should tell you how aggressive the X will actually be. I can't see much changing except for the rear bumper because of the US crash testing. The wheels are 18" rims so that most likely won't change either. The interior is a concept interior, but if look at what they changed on the
Eclipse concept interior, that might stay very close also.

 

It think it looks awesome! A really fresh design... and I dont see it as a breakaway from the past, its a simple and natural evolution from previous models. You cant expect a car to stay frozen in time and still be competitive... besides, mitsu has to shake things around in their lineup if they want to keep their sales at a decent level.

Isnt anyone curious about seeing how this Concept-X would look in other colors? Maybe someone who knows their way around photoshop could modd a few images of the car and put it in other colors...request made

 

I agree with you Straywolf....The Evo X looks great I don't see why people are complaining. If you look back in the Evo's past production line, the Evo X shell looks like it's based on the Evo V & VI. Where as the Evo VII-IX shell looks like it was based on the Evo 1-IV. I mean yea the Evo IX looks good to and I was about to get one this month, but after seeing the Evo X I'd rather wait. The Evo X is more of my taste then the Evo VII-IX body series. Basically Mitsubishi is just upgrading the Evo heritage.

 

I must say that I really like the evo X I recently sold my evo VIII and I know that I am buying the X because of how much I miss my VIII. With that being said the only two things I did not like about my old car were the boring exterior and extremely boring interior. It's time for change people. But regardless I love the VIII, IX, and soon to be X. Can't wait!!!!

 

Iam sorry but that 350z (skyline) is the ugliest car ever. It looks pretty sleak from a 3/4 view head-on, but then still that grill. To me, it's just another 350z, G35 coupe. Is keeping the center grill piece black the new craze? It's fantastically ugly. The X looks ok. The front from the side looks like a shark, which isnt a good portrayal. The car looks like a conglomeration of other exitsing cars. Sometimes it looks good and most times it looks ok. Perhaps, in real life it will look better, but that thing is definately subjective/acquired taste whereas all evo incarnations have never been subjective/acquired taste to me.

 

I love the look myself...but I definitly need to see it in yellow and really want the latest on the specs if any one has any new information that isnt posted 40 pahes back that they could post that would be cool.

Definitly buying a X for sure...the later it comes out the more time to save lol

 

i was on the internet and i found these pics of the concept ten.

 

I like it. In fact I am excited to see how the production version evolves. It is going to be very fast.

 

If they throw in some CVT piece of crap mitsu will lose me forever, but if it wasn't for the 4g63 in DSM's or the EVO they never would have had me anyway.

 

Those Tail Lights look way better than the ones the have on there now. Those would make the back more aggressive too. It would be hott if they did switch to those tail lights. Can't wait till the Evo X is done.

 

I think this car may be the end of mitsubishi evo. I think the appeal of the Evo and the STI is the econobox anti-sports car image. I also think it's going to be overpriced for it's intented market. It's too bad, since I want mitsu around long enough to support my warranty.

THis car is trying to look like a comprimise; more of a sports car. I have a bad feeling it's going to end up in production looking like a Scion.