Since 03 Scion's have been using rotational speed difference averaging. I know my friends 11' Camry does too. I'd say the Camry is a common Toyota.

Using the sensors is un-needed and poor design, but if forces people that own the cars to return to the dealership to spend money. That's the only reason they do it.

 

I don't think that's correct. Yes, Toyota experimented a bit with rotational-speed TPMS, but by 2011 all Camrys were back to wheel-stem sensors. Maybe you're thinking of a 2007.

 

Trying to think of a work around for the whole tpms thing. I was thinking of taking out all 4 sensors, dropping them all in 1 old 14" wheel and tire that I have, mounting it up and then tossing it in the trunk. To those that might know- are the sensors triggered at all by motion (if so this won't work) and would there be any type of interference having the sensors in such close proximity. Anybody attempt this?

 

If you search, you will see various threads about installing the four sensors in a PVC tube that you then pump up to 35 psi. Note that the sensors are relative (i.e., inside vs outside), so you can't just toss them inside the tube and pump it up; you have to have the four sensors mounted on the tube.

With all that said, my memory for those threads is that it didn't really work.

 

Thank you- I figured it wouldn't be that easy. While I'm here- my dealer said they didn't know if they could program non-oe sensors. Was just going to get 4 from TireRack but want to know if anybody has run into this problem.

 

Lots of dealers and tire places can't deal with our type of sensor. Ask if they have a BarTech WheelRite 400 or equivalent. If they do, then they can do your sensors. If not, then I doubt it. Of course, there's always a Mitsu dealer. But the issue isn't really OE vs what you'd get from TireRack. It's the type of sensor and the fact that you have to be able to tell the ECU what the new sensors are. There's no problem with the sensors that TireRack sells for Evo Xs. I have a set on my snows.

 

So with that dual wheel setup you have, is it a mandatory trip to the dealer or your local friendly (properly equipped) shop each time you change them out?

 

If I don't want to press the info button to clear the screen and have it revert to the TPMS warning every time I activate the ASC, yes. Last winter I paid to have it switched. This year I won't. I've gotten past watching the S-AWD display, so I really don't care what is being shown.

 

Classic! I think that the stupid warning becomes sort of background noise and we all must be pretty good at unconsciously filtering it out of the various inputs we get.

I think I got lucky on my setup -- I run my TPMS still in my stocker Enkei's (Stenkeis) I use for track duty. So pretty much before I hit the hot grid, the sensor has turned off so I am not distracted by that while driving at speed. The only annoying situations are those where I shouldn't be pushing so hard and able to give a little brain energy into shutting off the warning. (After a skid warning or a freezing weather warning it turns the TPMS warning back on in my 2008)

 

I contacted Orange over the weekend to see if there was an update and got the following reply:

"Our 36AA were not pairing with the Mitsubishi so we pulled the application. Taiwan has recently made an adjustment and we will be coming out with an option 1st quarter 2012"

 

Thx! Bugging vendors shows them there is a market if they make such and such efforts, so I'm glad you're out there actively reminding them of this untapped but elite market opportunity

 

Are they talking about their sensors or their code-reader? Another option for sensors is not what we need; the VDOs from TireRack are quite sufficient. A cheaper-than-$1600 option for being able to both read the codes and then upload them to the ECU is what we're after.

This is a job for Thomas Dorris. Maybe we should just buy him an Evo.

 

This is a totally different concept. You scan your existing sensors and clone their IDs to Orange sensors. This way you never have to update the ECU. $260 for the tool and about $50 a sensor

 

I contacted orange at least 5 times and every time they gave me nothing. What does that mean taiwan has made an adjustment? If they actually do get something going, I'll buy their tool. It was on sale a week or two ago for $150.

 

Ah. I get it now. That would be totally wicked. Now I'm really sad that it's currently vaporware.