(Resolved) Need help deciding on coilovers
I just installed my Spec -Rs on stock shocks and installed the Enkei Raijins in the same size 18x9.5 +15. I put my Summitomos that I already had, there 245/40 and the tire/wheel/spring combonation are great. Do not rub on anything. They do stick out a little bit but I too do not want to be worry about rubbing and other hassles. Tires are a little streched but nothing crazy.
My car is a DD and its been a clear inprovement from stcok. I can imagine it being better with the MR bilstein revalve shocks, but i have a budget right now.
I can send you close up pics if you want Noize if you are interested.
My car is a DD and its been a clear inprovement from stcok. I can imagine it being better with the MR bilstein revalve shocks, but i have a budget right now.
I can send you close up pics if you want Noize if you are interested.
I'd definitely like some pics as I've been considering those wheels 
Also wanted to note... Jimm may be able to run a much more aggressive camber since he can push the car harder at the track and get even wear on the tires. I'm willing to bet if you run the same camber on the street only, you'll get uneven wear in the inner tire. Wanna chime in on this Smike?
Also as far as the rubbing issues on your set up, have you loaded the rear of the car? Pushed the rear of the car hard?
Also wanted to note... Jimm may be able to run a much more aggressive camber since he can push the car harder at the track and get even wear on the tires. I'm willing to bet if you run the same camber on the street only, you'll get uneven wear in the inner tire. Wanna chime in on this Smike?
Also as far as the rubbing issues on your set up, have you loaded the rear of the car? Pushed the rear of the car hard?
I'd definitely like some pics as I've been considering those wheels 
Also wanted to note... Jimm may be able to run a much more aggressive camber since he can push the car harder at the track and get even wear on the tires. I'm willing to bet if you run the same camber on the street only, you'll get uneven wear in the inner tire. Wanna chime in on this Smike?
Also as far as the rubbing issues on your set up, have you loaded the rear of the car? Pushed the rear of the car hard?
Also wanted to note... Jimm may be able to run a much more aggressive camber since he can push the car harder at the track and get even wear on the tires. I'm willing to bet if you run the same camber on the street only, you'll get uneven wear in the inner tire. Wanna chime in on this Smike?
Also as far as the rubbing issues on your set up, have you loaded the rear of the car? Pushed the rear of the car hard?
I'd definitely like some pics as I've been considering those wheels 
Also wanted to note... Jimm may be able to run a much more aggressive camber since he can push the car harder at the track and get even wear on the tires. I'm willing to bet if you run the same camber on the street only, you'll get uneven wear in the inner tire. Wanna chime in on this Smike?
Also as far as the rubbing issues on your set up, have you loaded the rear of the car? Pushed the rear of the car hard?
Also wanted to note... Jimm may be able to run a much more aggressive camber since he can push the car harder at the track and get even wear on the tires. I'm willing to bet if you run the same camber on the street only, you'll get uneven wear in the inner tire. Wanna chime in on this Smike?
Also as far as the rubbing issues on your set up, have you loaded the rear of the car? Pushed the rear of the car hard?
18x9.5 +15 Raijins
245/40 summitomos
Spec-rs springs on stock shocks(35k miles)
Ive had my brother sit in the back(240 lbs and all my tools (100 lbs) in my truck after the install. No rubing. Im still waiting a week or so for possble settlement so i can get an allignment .

Here was stock suspension
Last edited by RevLimiter; Mar 1, 2012 at 09:48 AM.
H&R are 8000k/7000k. KW springs are actually stiffer in the rear. Apexi are 8000k/6000k, hence the thought it might push.
H&R and KW are guaranteed for life, so even in rebuild interval is shorter, it won't cost. Robispec KW are the same in this.
I want looks without worsening handling. I've read way too many threads where Eibachs lose function and require rear fender rolling with aftermarket wheels.
IMO to do Swifts Sports or GTWORX to be super nice, you need to be like migs and get Bilsteins and have them revalved. At that point, the cost jumps way higher than a set of $300 springs. I'd be shipping stuff around and be 80% to the cost I've been quoted on coilovers.
I rode in jimm's and 01cbr929's cars that both have the Robispec (KW) setup. Neither car was too stiff for me by any means, but both had substantially less body roll.
H&R and KW are guaranteed for life, so even in rebuild interval is shorter, it won't cost. Robispec KW are the same in this.
I want looks without worsening handling. I've read way too many threads where Eibachs lose function and require rear fender rolling with aftermarket wheels.
IMO to do Swifts Sports or GTWORX to be super nice, you need to be like migs and get Bilsteins and have them revalved. At that point, the cost jumps way higher than a set of $300 springs. I'd be shipping stuff around and be 80% to the cost I've been quoted on coilovers.
I rode in jimm's and 01cbr929's cars that both have the Robispec (KW) setup. Neither car was too stiff for me by any means, but both had substantially less body roll.
see my sig. I'm extremely competitive with non-re-valved Bilsteins AND 245 street tires. and Houston auto-x is insanely competitive. Sometimes I'm angry that I can't nail the last .3-.5 seconds to beat 1st place - but then I go home and realize what (little) I have modded
people take what they read on forums too seriously. if you are a driver that could 100% use the benefit of fully valved bilsteins, you wouldn't be making this thread
going Bilsteins with GTWorx, and then re-valving the Bilsteins when they go out is probably the best budget minded upgrade path you can do
and if you dig around for dyno charts of BC coils, they look pretty trash honestly. no stroke and dampers never felt right - had them on my RA and was not happy
Ok migs, let's use Irvin as an example here. His car is phantom black, and he's a friend, so he won't mind. His car looks really nice on the Spec Rs, looks not so nice stock ride height. If my junk would look like the second pic, I would just run the stock wheels instead. That's why I want to do it all at once.
absolutely not with the GTWorx
see my sig. I'm extremely competitive with non-re-valved Bilsteins AND 245 street tires. and Houston auto-x is insanely competitive. Sometimes I'm angry that I can't nail the last .3-.5 seconds to beat 1st place - but then I go home and realize what (little) I have modded
people take what they read on forums too seriously. if you are a driver that could 100% use the benefit of fully valved bilsteins, you wouldn't be making this thread
going Bilsteins with GTWorx, and then re-valving the Bilsteins when they go out is probably the best budget minded upgrade path you can do
and if you dig around for dyno charts of BC coils, they look pretty trash honestly. no stroke and dampers never felt right - had them on my RA and was not happy
see my sig. I'm extremely competitive with non-re-valved Bilsteins AND 245 street tires. and Houston auto-x is insanely competitive. Sometimes I'm angry that I can't nail the last .3-.5 seconds to beat 1st place - but then I go home and realize what (little) I have modded
people take what they read on forums too seriously. if you are a driver that could 100% use the benefit of fully valved bilsteins, you wouldn't be making this thread
going Bilsteins with GTWorx, and then re-valving the Bilsteins when they go out is probably the best budget minded upgrade path you can do
and if you dig around for dyno charts of BC coils, they look pretty trash honestly. no stroke and dampers never felt right - had them on my RA and was not happy
I made this thread because I don't know very much about suspension and wanted help.
heres a shot from the tire install on the lift
Hi all,
Couple if corrections since I have been a topic of discussion
. My COs are Robi's clubsports which start off from different struts than the V3s before Robi changes them.
The camber I currently run -1.1 to -1.2 or so rear camber because it was what Fuller set the camber at when he installed his kit (also have his rear sway etc). I have no rubbing tn the rear with 245/40 tires on 9.5 +15 rpf1s in the rear, fenders are not rolled. Little fender liner rub in the front (~-2 camber backing off Robi's setting of -2.4 some).
I have run this setup since summer of '09 and had no significant camber wear with the caveat that I switch tires back and forth alot between summer and snows etc rotating them each time I do.
As for the topic of the thread, Noise road in my car. the Robi kws are quiet and comfy especially considering the spring rates. Stock KWs have softer spring rates so should be better for what he wants depending on how the high speed valving is set from the factory.
Has anyone loved the H & R? Speak up if so because the guys who posted here about them sold the car and the other one took them off for springs.
Since he does not want the springs/mr bilstein combo (i also suggested this...he does not want) not sure what else is competitive or to suggest at this price point.
Couple if corrections since I have been a topic of discussion
. My COs are Robi's clubsports which start off from different struts than the V3s before Robi changes them. The camber I currently run -1.1 to -1.2 or so rear camber because it was what Fuller set the camber at when he installed his kit (also have his rear sway etc). I have no rubbing tn the rear with 245/40 tires on 9.5 +15 rpf1s in the rear, fenders are not rolled. Little fender liner rub in the front (~-2 camber backing off Robi's setting of -2.4 some).
I have run this setup since summer of '09 and had no significant camber wear with the caveat that I switch tires back and forth alot between summer and snows etc rotating them each time I do.
As for the topic of the thread, Noise road in my car. the Robi kws are quiet and comfy especially considering the spring rates. Stock KWs have softer spring rates so should be better for what he wants depending on how the high speed valving is set from the factory.
Has anyone loved the H & R? Speak up if so because the guys who posted here about them sold the car and the other one took them off for springs.
Since he does not want the springs/mr bilstein combo (i also suggested this...he does not want) not sure what else is competitive or to suggest at this price point.
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Now that I look at it more, It does look stretched. It can also be the brand and model of tire. Im using the Summitomos that the dealer put on( probably least expensive tire option) But i can see Hankook RS3 or Continental DWS or star Specs run a little wider. or run 255/265 if your paranoid.
heres a shot from the tire install on the lift
heres a shot from the tire install on the lift
What you are seeing is tread arch width.
245 (or whatever) is section width. Measured from mid-sidewall to mid-sidewall. Tread width is not a standard (defined in a big way by arch and mold shape).









