Stock tires=fail
Stock tires=fail
Dealer sales man "u can get about 30k out of the stock tires" I figured he was full of s#it but really 10k and there toast!!!? Sounds like the evo595's are The way to go seems like best value good tread life and decent performance. Or can someone else give me some info on some good tires that won't break the bank thanks!
This tops my list of "If someone had told me this was gonna be a big deal before I bought it..." things about the car.
- Got 7.5k out of stock tires. Would have aligned and swapped the tires the first day if I knew they were gonna fry that fast. Replacement set will cost you between $750 - $1,000 for decent ones.
- Rides like **** if there's more than a small difference between tread levels on F/R axles (I replaced only a pair first, went back the next day and replaced the other pair it was so bad).
- With enthusiastic daily use the front pads are dead now in 17.5k miles. Choosing replacements is a LOT of research work and who knows if I'll be satisfied with whatever I pick.
- '12 and up model years switched from full synthetic to 5W-30 (no idea why) so prepare to change oil every 3k miles.
- Stock headunit (non-nav) is slow as hell to connect on bluetooth and forget about using a classic iPod with it. It also has a bonus AUX mode with no physical input since that was deleted along the way.
- Factory aero kit's very bottom front lip rubber skirt peels off on the first curb you park too close to. It is sold by itself but is a $200~+ part (FOR A RUBBER STRIP?) and that's through a aftermarket OEM part reseller, not the dealer.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something minor here and there but at 18k now on my '14 GSR that's a snippet of my experience so far. Still love the car like I did the first day though.
TL;DR: Enjoy your new Evo but be prepared for diva-level maintenance and expenses.
- Got 7.5k out of stock tires. Would have aligned and swapped the tires the first day if I knew they were gonna fry that fast. Replacement set will cost you between $750 - $1,000 for decent ones.
- Rides like **** if there's more than a small difference between tread levels on F/R axles (I replaced only a pair first, went back the next day and replaced the other pair it was so bad).
- With enthusiastic daily use the front pads are dead now in 17.5k miles. Choosing replacements is a LOT of research work and who knows if I'll be satisfied with whatever I pick.
- '12 and up model years switched from full synthetic to 5W-30 (no idea why) so prepare to change oil every 3k miles.
- Stock headunit (non-nav) is slow as hell to connect on bluetooth and forget about using a classic iPod with it. It also has a bonus AUX mode with no physical input since that was deleted along the way.
- Factory aero kit's very bottom front lip rubber skirt peels off on the first curb you park too close to. It is sold by itself but is a $200~+ part (FOR A RUBBER STRIP?) and that's through a aftermarket OEM part reseller, not the dealer.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something minor here and there but at 18k now on my '14 GSR that's a snippet of my experience so far. Still love the car like I did the first day though.
TL;DR: Enjoy your new Evo but be prepared for diva-level maintenance and expenses.
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This tops my list of "If someone had told me this was gonna be a big deal before I bought it..." things about the car.
- Got 7.5k out of stock tires. Would have aligned and swapped the tires the first day if I knew they were gonna fry that fast. Replacement set will cost you between $750 - $1,000 for decent ones.
- Rides like **** if there's more than a small difference between tread levels on F/R axles (I replaced only a pair first, went back the next day and replaced the other pair it was so bad).
- With enthusiastic daily use the front pads are dead now in 17.5k miles. Choosing replacements is a LOT of research work and who knows if I'll be satisfied with whatever I pick.
- '12 and up model years switched from full synthetic to 5W-30 (no idea why) so prepare to change oil every 3k miles.
- Stock headunit (non-nav) is slow as hell to connect on bluetooth and forget about using a classic iPod with it. It also has a bonus AUX mode with no physical input since that was deleted along the way.
- Factory aero kit's very bottom front lip rubber skirt peels off on the first curb you park too close to. It is sold by itself but is a $200~+ part (FOR A RUBBER STRIP?) and that's through a aftermarket OEM part reseller, not the dealer.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something minor here and there but at 18k now on my '14 GSR that's a snippet of my experience so far. Still love the car like I did the first day though.
TL;DR: Enjoy your new Evo but be prepared for diva-level maintenance and expenses.
- Got 7.5k out of stock tires. Would have aligned and swapped the tires the first day if I knew they were gonna fry that fast. Replacement set will cost you between $750 - $1,000 for decent ones.
- Rides like **** if there's more than a small difference between tread levels on F/R axles (I replaced only a pair first, went back the next day and replaced the other pair it was so bad).
- With enthusiastic daily use the front pads are dead now in 17.5k miles. Choosing replacements is a LOT of research work and who knows if I'll be satisfied with whatever I pick.
- '12 and up model years switched from full synthetic to 5W-30 (no idea why) so prepare to change oil every 3k miles.
- Stock headunit (non-nav) is slow as hell to connect on bluetooth and forget about using a classic iPod with it. It also has a bonus AUX mode with no physical input since that was deleted along the way.
- Factory aero kit's very bottom front lip rubber skirt peels off on the first curb you park too close to. It is sold by itself but is a $200~+ part (FOR A RUBBER STRIP?) and that's through a aftermarket OEM part reseller, not the dealer.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something minor here and there but at 18k now on my '14 GSR that's a snippet of my experience so far. Still love the car like I did the first day though.
TL;DR: Enjoy your new Evo but be prepared for diva-level maintenance and expenses.
This tops my list of "If someone had told me this was gonna be a big deal before I bought it..." things about the car.
- Got 7.5k out of stock tires. Would have aligned and swapped the tires the first day if I knew they were gonna fry that fast. Replacement set will cost you between $750 - $1,000 for decent ones.
- Rides like **** if there's more than a small difference between tread levels on F/R axles (I replaced only a pair first, went back the next day and replaced the other pair it was so bad).
- With enthusiastic daily use the front pads are dead now in 17.5k miles. Choosing replacements is a LOT of research work and who knows if I'll be satisfied with whatever I pick.
- '12 and up model years switched from full synthetic to 5W-30 (no idea why) so prepare to change oil every 3k miles.
- Stock headunit (non-nav) is slow as hell to connect on bluetooth and forget about using a classic iPod with it. It also has a bonus AUX mode with no physical input since that was deleted along the way.
- Factory aero kit's very bottom front lip rubber skirt peels off on the first curb you park too close to. It is sold by itself but is a $200~+ part (FOR A RUBBER STRIP?) and that's through a aftermarket OEM part reseller, not the dealer.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something minor here and there but at 18k now on my '14 GSR that's a snippet of my experience so far. Still love the car like I did the first day though.
TL;DR: Enjoy your new Evo but be prepared for diva-level maintenance and expenses.
- Got 7.5k out of stock tires. Would have aligned and swapped the tires the first day if I knew they were gonna fry that fast. Replacement set will cost you between $750 - $1,000 for decent ones.
- Rides like **** if there's more than a small difference between tread levels on F/R axles (I replaced only a pair first, went back the next day and replaced the other pair it was so bad).
- With enthusiastic daily use the front pads are dead now in 17.5k miles. Choosing replacements is a LOT of research work and who knows if I'll be satisfied with whatever I pick.
- '12 and up model years switched from full synthetic to 5W-30 (no idea why) so prepare to change oil every 3k miles.
- Stock headunit (non-nav) is slow as hell to connect on bluetooth and forget about using a classic iPod with it. It also has a bonus AUX mode with no physical input since that was deleted along the way.
- Factory aero kit's very bottom front lip rubber skirt peels off on the first curb you park too close to. It is sold by itself but is a $200~+ part (FOR A RUBBER STRIP?) and that's through a aftermarket OEM part reseller, not the dealer.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something minor here and there but at 18k now on my '14 GSR that's a snippet of my experience so far. Still love the car like I did the first day though.
TL;DR: Enjoy your new Evo but be prepared for diva-level maintenance and expenses.
Actually, I hope you're not using stock weight.
I'm at 60k on the car now. Still on original stock set of pads, but I swap them out for track pads for each of my track days.
Why would you only replace a pair of tires on an AWD car? You're asking to fry diffs.
2012 and up changed weight, but still is full synthetic. Dealers were misinformed. I hope you're not using dino.
Actually, I hope you're not using stock weight.
I'm at 60k on the car now. Still on original stock set of pads, but I swap them out for track pads for each of my track days.
Why would you only replace a pair of tires on an AWD car? You're asking to fry diffs.
Actually, I hope you're not using stock weight.
I'm at 60k on the car now. Still on original stock set of pads, but I swap them out for track pads for each of my track days.
Why would you only replace a pair of tires on an AWD car? You're asking to fry diffs.
Not knowing beforehand that AWD is extremely sensitive to tread variances like it is this is my crapshoot in a nutshell in just over 1 year with it now:
- Stockers are pretty bald but not dead at 7.5k, run over huge concrete pointy bastard and murders the right passenger side (murders it badly: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3M...ew?usp=sharing). Replace pair, terrible ride, replace remaining pair. Naively replaced with Potenza S04's so about $1100~.
- Less than 10k later same thing happens again, huge screw in a sidewall. Tread is about 50-60% remaining. Unamused I attempt to use somewhat lesser crazy tires (RE760's). Still out $750~ in the end. The kicker is I'd just finished paying off the last set a few days earlier.
This doesn't include my factory defect/insane repair that happened dead at 5k miles. Oh no...
>Driving, crusing in 4th > "AWD SYSTEM SERVICE REQUIRED" > Now 4th grinds into the gate terrifyingly. wtf.
Long story short, the dealer replaced 4th's synchros but said the flywheel face/clutch were warped and accused me of hooning it (naturally). A long fight with them took everything I had and nearly killed me... despite only being dragged at a strip once with a couple of runs the warranty on my new car wouldn't cover those parts as they were wear items.
In the end they wanted me out of their shop so badly they acquiesced to installing aftermarket replacement clutch and flywheel I bought myself. They weren't getting any money from me and never did. This was a unbelievable nightmare and I gave up before getting to arbitration on it with Mitsu and tried to forget best I could just to get past it and move on.
Incidentally I have clutch disc/flywheel faceplate pics I was originally going to post here to ask if they were baldfaced lying to me (clutch was pristine, no burns or chunks missing or any wear really). Never did because at this point it would just hurt to know if they had and I still did their little dance.
Yeah it's been an experience. Right now I'd like to be able to get it sorted, topped off on maintenance and not have anything else blow up for maybe 6 months.
also, sucks about all your other issues man! damn.
I think the #1 thing they need to tell people is that the evo is a performance car. It has performance car maintenance, not civic si maintenance. I know people say "duh", but if you never had any experience outside of economy cars, why would you assume differently? Really, if I could meet evo buyers before they sign, i'd just tell them to think of what they think maintenance will cost, then tell them to multiply by 5, and that's much closer to actual cost.
Also:
I have driven on:
Stock Yokohama's A13Cs
Dunlop Star Spec Z1s
Dunlop Star Spec ZIIs
Hoosier A6s
Shaved Toyo RA1s
Yokohama S4s
Blizzak LM60s
I can say the stock tires were by far my favorite tire for the car. The blizzak's come in second cause evo in the snow on snow tires is just the coolest thing ever. But the stock A13c's were just a wonderful tire. Price for a set is simply ludicrous though.
Last edited by ddawg1130; Jun 16, 2015 at 03:55 PM.
Swell, yes I was misinformed by the dealer badly then. Time for an oil change it seems.
Not knowing beforehand that AWD is extremely sensitive to tread variances like it is this is my crapshoot in a nutshell in just over 1 year with it now:
- Stockers are pretty bald but not dead at 7.5k, run over huge concrete pointy bastard and murders the right passenger side (murders it badly: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3M...ew?usp=sharing). Replace pair, terrible ride, replace remaining pair. Naively replaced with Potenza S04's so about $1100~.
- Less than 10k later same thing happens again, huge screw in a sidewall. Tread is about 50-60% remaining. Unamused I attempt to use somewhat lesser crazy tires (RE760's). Still out $750~ in the end. The kicker is I'd just finished paying off the last set a few days earlier.
This doesn't include my factory defect/insane repair that happened dead at 5k miles. Oh no...
>Driving, crusing in 4th > "AWD SYSTEM SERVICE REQUIRED" > Now 4th grinds into the gate terrifyingly. wtf.
Long story short, the dealer replaced 4th's synchros but said the flywheel face/clutch were warped and accused me of hooning it (naturally). A long fight with them took everything I had and nearly killed me... despite only being dragged at a strip once with a couple of runs the warranty on my new car wouldn't cover those parts as they were wear items.
In the end they wanted me out of their shop so badly they acquiesced to installing aftermarket replacement clutch and flywheel I bought myself. They weren't getting any money from me and never did. This was a unbelievable nightmare and I gave up before getting to arbitration on it with Mitsu and tried to forget best I could just to get past it and move on.
Incidentally I have clutch disc/flywheel faceplate pics I was originally going to post here to ask if they were baldfaced lying to me (clutch was pristine, no burns or chunks missing or any wear really). Never did because at this point it would just hurt to know if they had and I still did their little dance.
Yeah it's been an experience. Right now I'd like to be able to get it sorted, topped off on maintenance and not have anything else blow up for maybe 6 months.
Not knowing beforehand that AWD is extremely sensitive to tread variances like it is this is my crapshoot in a nutshell in just over 1 year with it now:
- Stockers are pretty bald but not dead at 7.5k, run over huge concrete pointy bastard and murders the right passenger side (murders it badly: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3M...ew?usp=sharing). Replace pair, terrible ride, replace remaining pair. Naively replaced with Potenza S04's so about $1100~.
- Less than 10k later same thing happens again, huge screw in a sidewall. Tread is about 50-60% remaining. Unamused I attempt to use somewhat lesser crazy tires (RE760's). Still out $750~ in the end. The kicker is I'd just finished paying off the last set a few days earlier.
This doesn't include my factory defect/insane repair that happened dead at 5k miles. Oh no...
>Driving, crusing in 4th > "AWD SYSTEM SERVICE REQUIRED" > Now 4th grinds into the gate terrifyingly. wtf.
Long story short, the dealer replaced 4th's synchros but said the flywheel face/clutch were warped and accused me of hooning it (naturally). A long fight with them took everything I had and nearly killed me... despite only being dragged at a strip once with a couple of runs the warranty on my new car wouldn't cover those parts as they were wear items.
In the end they wanted me out of their shop so badly they acquiesced to installing aftermarket replacement clutch and flywheel I bought myself. They weren't getting any money from me and never did. This was a unbelievable nightmare and I gave up before getting to arbitration on it with Mitsu and tried to forget best I could just to get past it and move on.
Incidentally I have clutch disc/flywheel faceplate pics I was originally going to post here to ask if they were baldfaced lying to me (clutch was pristine, no burns or chunks missing or any wear really). Never did because at this point it would just hurt to know if they had and I still did their little dance.
Yeah it's been an experience. Right now I'd like to be able to get it sorted, topped off on maintenance and not have anything else blow up for maybe 6 months.

1. If you're still using dino, get rid of with Mobil 1 0W-40 and Purolator Filter PL14459. Then do your research on oil and filter to see which you are more comfortable using. However, that recommendation will be loads better than dino in your car.
2. READ ALL THE STICKIES ON THIS FORUM. It will cover somethings like replace fuel relays after buying the car (yes, even new) and ziptie-ing your vaccum hose that connects to the stock FPR.
3. For tires, my personal recommendation is Extreme Summers for the Summer, Studless Winter in the Winter if you see snow. Everyone's budget is different, but the car is a performance car and should never run All-Seasons, summers only. Here's the kicker, Extreme Summers last longer than stockers.
4. For the love of god, get an alignment if you haven't already. I've given out specs plenty of times already. If you're **** like me, put the amount of the stuff the car will normally have while driving around in it, and sit in your car as your car is getting aligned.
Plenty of more info on this forum, and 2 other Evo forums around.
Thanks man, wouldn’t wish it on anyone or their bank account.
I test drove an S3 recently actually. Not my cup of tea and hated the flappy paddles.
The plan as it stands for me now is once the lease is up in April 2017 (yep, it’s a lease) is to turn it in and go with a Focus RS. Only because Mitsu doesn’t care anymore pretty much about continuing performance cars and their service is absolute crap.
I lol’d. Ironically I’d only ever owned Civics before stepping up to the Evo. 98 EX, 00 SI and 07 SI. Yeah the difference in maintenance was only generally expected. Nothing quite prepared me for it, though it’s my fault for not researching it thoroughly in the forums beforehand.
The A13's were lovely, yes, though as the Evo is my daily I need something somewhat practical for rubber. While I did read through the manual (yes I read manuals!) I guess I missed the significance of that portion mentioning the tread variance requirement. Did check and see it again though... yeah it's not written with enough emphasis on the importance as it should be.
Thankfully I’m in Central Florida so there’s no need for anything other than performance tires that can handle rain and keep the hydroplaning down. The car is damn fun in the wet though and stupid safe compared to my previous ones.
All of the information and good will is really appreciated guys, thanks. I try to be intelligent on the internet whenever I post. 
Fortunately the tire chain I use (Tires Plus – due to a longtime acquaintance being a manager there) has an inexpensive lifetime alignment which I got right away. The mentions about oil and checking the other stickies are great, I’ll go through them now and make sure I educate myself as much as possible.
I’m proud of being able to drive this car finally. Worked hard for it. It only makes sense to be as smart as possible about maintaining it.
The plan as it stands for me now is once the lease is up in April 2017 (yep, it’s a lease) is to turn it in and go with a Focus RS. Only because Mitsu doesn’t care anymore pretty much about continuing performance cars and their service is absolute crap.
Good list (i really mean that, not sarcasm). But this one is in the owners manual...
also, sucks about all your other issues man! damn.
I think the #1 thing they need to tell people is that the evo is a performance car. It has performance car maintenance, not civic si maintenance. I know people say "duh", but if you never had any experience outside of economy cars, why would you assume differently? Really, if I could meet evo buyers before they sign, i'd just tell them to think of what they think maintenance will cost, then tell them to multiply by 5, and that's much closer to actual cost.
I can say the stock tires were by far my favorite tire for the car. The blizzak's come in second cause evo in the snow on snow tires is just the coolest thing ever. But the stock A13c's were just a wonderful tire. Price for a set is simply ludicrous though.
also, sucks about all your other issues man! damn.
I think the #1 thing they need to tell people is that the evo is a performance car. It has performance car maintenance, not civic si maintenance. I know people say "duh", but if you never had any experience outside of economy cars, why would you assume differently? Really, if I could meet evo buyers before they sign, i'd just tell them to think of what they think maintenance will cost, then tell them to multiply by 5, and that's much closer to actual cost.
I can say the stock tires were by far my favorite tire for the car. The blizzak's come in second cause evo in the snow on snow tires is just the coolest thing ever. But the stock A13c's were just a wonderful tire. Price for a set is simply ludicrous though.
The A13's were lovely, yes, though as the Evo is my daily I need something somewhat practical for rubber. While I did read through the manual (yes I read manuals!) I guess I missed the significance of that portion mentioning the tread variance requirement. Did check and see it again though... yeah it's not written with enough emphasis on the importance as it should be.

Thankfully I’m in Central Florida so there’s no need for anything other than performance tires that can handle rain and keep the hydroplaning down. The car is damn fun in the wet though and stupid safe compared to my previous ones.
If you're looking for some quick tips:
1. If you're still using dino, get rid of with Mobil 1 0W-40 and Purolator Filter PL14459. Then do your research on oil and filter to see which you are more comfortable using. However, that recommendation will be loads better than dino in your car.
2. READ ALL THE STICKIES ON THIS FORUM. It will cover somethings like replace fuel relays after buying the car (yes, even new) and ziptie-ing your vaccum hose that connects to the stock FPR.
3. For tires, my personal recommendation is Extreme Summers for the Summer, Studless Winter in the Winter if you see snow. Everyone's budget is different, but the car is a performance car and should never run All-Seasons, summers only. Here's the kicker, Extreme Summers last longer than stockers.
4. For the love of god, get an alignment if you haven't already. I've given out specs plenty of times already. If you're **** like me, put the amount of the stuff the car will normally have while driving around in it, and sit in your car as your car is getting aligned.
Plenty of more info on this forum, and 2 other Evo forums around.
1. If you're still using dino, get rid of with Mobil 1 0W-40 and Purolator Filter PL14459. Then do your research on oil and filter to see which you are more comfortable using. However, that recommendation will be loads better than dino in your car.
2. READ ALL THE STICKIES ON THIS FORUM. It will cover somethings like replace fuel relays after buying the car (yes, even new) and ziptie-ing your vaccum hose that connects to the stock FPR.
3. For tires, my personal recommendation is Extreme Summers for the Summer, Studless Winter in the Winter if you see snow. Everyone's budget is different, but the car is a performance car and should never run All-Seasons, summers only. Here's the kicker, Extreme Summers last longer than stockers.
4. For the love of god, get an alignment if you haven't already. I've given out specs plenty of times already. If you're **** like me, put the amount of the stuff the car will normally have while driving around in it, and sit in your car as your car is getting aligned.
Plenty of more info on this forum, and 2 other Evo forums around.

Fortunately the tire chain I use (Tires Plus – due to a longtime acquaintance being a manager there) has an inexpensive lifetime alignment which I got right away. The mentions about oil and checking the other stickies are great, I’ll go through them now and make sure I educate myself as much as possible.
I’m proud of being able to drive this car finally. Worked hard for it. It only makes sense to be as smart as possible about maintaining it.


