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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 07:57 PM
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In the past I switched from HP+ pads (brake dust city)

Is that the same one I have a photo (above) of?
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 04:02 AM
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Is that the same one I have a photo (above) of?
The ones pictured are a different pad from HAWK. I think they'll produce less than the HP+ but I'm not sure much brake dust those ceramics toss around.
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 07:53 AM
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you guys are a bunch of enablers.

just spent 20 minutes looking into this, and decided to purchase this:
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got fair enough ratings and I think it'll do for me. adam's sells an insane $130 kit that is way too hardcore for me
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
you guys are a bunch of enablers.

just spent 20 minutes looking into this, and decided to purchase this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ITEZCTM/

got fair enough ratings and I think it'll do for me. adam's sells an insane $130 kit that is way too hardcore for me
Excellent! Two thing to keep in mind, if I may. First is surface prep. The finish has to be free of contaminates that may prevent the product from fully bonding. Wheels typically have two issues to address - road grime and brake dust. If you don't have a decontamination product, clay and diluted alcohol can get you there. It's very important to wipe down the finish thoroughly with the alcohol solution before applying the coating. The alcohol will also remove the residue left behind after cleaning the wheel.

The coating is a bit different to work with than a wax or a sealant. While a very thin coat is always advised with the latter, it's a requirement with a coating. The product cures/flashes quickly, so it's best to work a small area and go back over it within a relatively short period of time. It's not difficult. You'll see this illustrated in all good instructional videos.

FWIW, companies like Adam's, Chemical Guys, and AMMO - Youtube brands, in essence - are typically not favored by the professional/enthusiast sector of the market. This isn't to say all their wares are crap. For example, Adam's VRT/ CG VRP is an excellent interior dressing, though I personally think there's a better option for the plastics in our Evos, specifically.
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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thanks for the additional detail - I have some mothers wheel cleaner (the stuff that smells like sulfur) that I used to clean the wheels very recently. I'm going to clean then down lightly once more and then follow the instructions to apply this stuff.

regardless of the quality, gotta be better than the wheel being "naked"
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 11:18 AM
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I'm not to sure about those coatings. I was reading about one of them and it had SiO2 in it. I do a lot of painting and silicone is bad news when it comes to trying to do any custom paint work. I'm the type of person who will pull off parts on my car, sand blast them with glass bead - and then custom paint it. Usually anything exposed to silicon gives me a bunch of headaches with paint adhesion and contamination.

I can't tell you ten times more about paint than I can about brake dust though. I have my very own own paint booth. It's like a garage in my garage. One of my cars is always parked inside of there lol.

Silicone makes me nervous.
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 11:39 AM
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I'm not to sure about those coatings. I was reading about one of them and it had SiO2 in it. I do a lot of painting and silicone is bad news when it comes to trying to do any custom paint work. I'm the type of person who will pull off parts on my car, sand blast them with glass bead - and then custom paint it. Usually anything exposed to silicon gives me a bunch of headaches with paint adhesion and contamination.

I can't tell you ten times more about paint than I can about brake dust though. I have my very own own paint booth. It's like a garage in my garage. One of my cars is always parked inside of there lol.

Silicone makes me nervous.
Chemistry is complicated. Seems like you're thinking of a petroleum-based product and this is closer to glass. One slides around on the surface and the other bonds to it. All nano coatings contain SiO2, as mentioned earlier. That's the magic ingredient.
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 11:48 AM
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this is what I got - they say it's safe for all finishes but who really knows I guess?
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 12:08 PM
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this is what I got - they say it's safe for all finishes but who really knows I guess?
I'm not talking about it damaging my finish, I'm talking about contamination left behind if I want to repaint an area that has been touched by this stuff.
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 12:10 PM
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got it, thank you for the clarification
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
got it, thank you for the clarification
Please keep us updated on your feedback of the product. I'm pretty interested.
I had white Buddy Club P1's on my old turbo civic hatch back in the day. After the car was stolen I decided I would never buy white wheels again. Too damn time consuming to maintain.
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This is a good video applicable to all wheel nano coatings. It discusses the product in detail, as well as its prep and application. 14 minutes well spent:

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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 04:31 PM
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one thing i haven't considered is, how much heat can this stuff take? my rotors will def get very very very hot on the road course
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
one thing i haven't considered is, how much heat can this stuff take? my rotors will def get very very very hot on the road course
Good point. Obviously the product won't last as long on wheels that cover glowing rotors as it will with street driving. Given two coats, 5-8K is not unreasonable on the street. Without heavy prep and some fun tossed into the mix, anyone's guess is as good as mine.

Previously, the best we could do was under a month of street driving with Finish Kare 1000P - a temp-tolerant paste sealant. Just that product, nothing else lasted as long. The SiO2 stuff works on a completely different level. Literally.

Edit: I think that folks have been jaded by late night TV ads showing detailing products that claim to perform miracles. This technology is unlike anything we've had before. It's a whole 'nother ballgame that also plays by its own set of rules. The reward is durability and gloss that also exists on a level not often seen. SiO2 product have been around for about 5 years. Many communities consider a paint coating to me a mod of sorts. It certainly sets one's car apart.

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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
one thing i haven't considered is, how much heat can this stuff take? my rotors will def get very very very hot on the road course
You are fighting a loosing battle by trying to keep your wheels/car in pristine condition whilst also tracking and autocrossing it...LOL.
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