350z or keep the evo
The key here is how much do you go to the track and "Street race" if you don't do either I would buy a 350Z in a heartbeat. The EVO is more fun, but only in spirited driving and if you aren't going to be breaking the law (which is awesome by the way) or racing at the track I wouldn't hesitate to trade.
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I would pay in full and keep the Evo forever. Then, after that, buy a used cheap 350z and force induct the hell out of it for highway runs.
I did not buy the Evo because the proposed car would be used extentsively and suffer in high miles; and the Evo being turbo that sort of scared me a bit. Since the Z is aspirated, likely it will last more enginewise.
I did not buy the Evo because the proposed car would be used extentsively and suffer in high miles; and the Evo being turbo that sort of scared me a bit. Since the Z is aspirated, likely it will last more enginewise.
Originally Posted by Jasil
The EVO is more fun, but only in spirited driving and if you aren't going to be breaking the law (which is awesome by the way) or racing at the track I wouldn't hesitate to trade.
Originally Posted by Robert_K
I disagree. I've owned both and think my Z is more fun to drive. On the street, daily driving or law breaking spirited, or at the track I'm enjoying the Z more than my old Evo 8. Yes the Evo was faster but I have too much fun with a RWD sport coupe vs the AWD sedan the Evo is.
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The evo and the z are both very good speed machines, only the target speed is defferent. Evos are built rally cars made for rapid acceleration. But, on a high speed course where both cars are over 60mph most of the time and hitting 160+, the z will be best. On a short track, it's common knowledge the evo will destroy the z.
And people, please do not underestimate the z. Its embarassing. Plus, everybody is concluding the evo is faster. Although true to some extent, on the highway, after 70 mph, playing with a z like that can be a fatal proposition to a hurtful loss. Specially with the stock VIII's. I have done it myself quite a few times.
And people, please do not underestimate the z. Its embarassing. Plus, everybody is concluding the evo is faster. Although true to some extent, on the highway, after 70 mph, playing with a z like that can be a fatal proposition to a hurtful loss. Specially with the stock VIII's. I have done it myself quite a few times.
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Originally Posted by 350streetracer
The evo and the z are both very good speed machines, only the target speed is defferent. Evos are built rally cars made for rapid acceleration. But, on a high speed course where both cars are over 60mph most of the time and hitting 160+, the z will be best. On a short track, it's common knowledge the evo will destroy the z.
And people, please do not underestimate the z. Its embarassing. Plus, everybody is concluding the evo is faster. Although true to some extent, on the highway, after 70 mph, playing with a z like that can be a fatal proposition to a hurtful loss. Specially with the stock VIII's. I have done it myself quite a few times.
And people, please do not underestimate the z. Its embarassing. Plus, everybody is concluding the evo is faster. Although true to some extent, on the highway, after 70 mph, playing with a z like that can be a fatal proposition to a hurtful loss. Specially with the stock VIII's. I have done it myself quite a few times.
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Originally Posted by seox0011
im trying to decide if i should keep my evo b/c i am having second thoughts about it. If any one has ne pros n cons they can say about the 350z; i would like to hear them...
The Evo is TWICE the car that the 350Z will EVER be.
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
Please don't contribute to putting another one of these attrocities on the roadways......I beg of you.
The Evo is TWICE the car that the 350Z will EVER be.
The Evo is TWICE the car that the 350Z will EVER be.
Where is the attrocity, I don't see it.
Originally Posted by 350streetracer
Where is the attrocity, I don't see it.
My brother has a 350Z which I was driving around when I visited him in LA. Here's what I wrote when I drove it, an Evo, and an STi back to back.
http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php...=41485&hl=350z
That being said, my stock RS beats my friend's 350Z on Toyo RA1s at the autox. Even if I moved to someplace without snow I'd have a hard time getting another car over the Evo 
But the 350Z definitely is a nicer car to drive, and with more skill might be faster around a track.
http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php...=41485&hl=350z
Drove my brother's 350Z a lot while I was there. That car is a pleasure to drive, the throttle response is amazing and plenty of torque at any rpm (3.5L V6 with throttle-by-wire). Center of gravity is low, so there's almost no body roll, and even though I wasn't pushing it hard the grip it has is amazing. Best of all is the steering, it's nice and heavy, and lets you feel everything on the road. You know exactly what's going on. It's supposed to have a variable steering weight, so it feels heavier the faster you travel. On Saturday we headed off for a short hike towards Mount Waterman. The drive to and fro was amazing, 6000ft above sea level!
Afterwards we went to Thousand Oaks Auto Mall and got to drive an STi 9. After driving the Z it was a big disappointment. Because it was a new car (230 miles on the motor) I didn't want to rev it really hard (but made it up to 5k rpm after I was told that it's the official demo car), so it's unfair to compare it's low-end acceleration to the Z. But the lack of any feedback from the steering wheel was a big turn off. Had a scary corner where I got a bit too close to the curb, but I returned the car without a scratch. The salesman knew my brother from a few Subaru meets he had attended; he has a modified and lowered forester that's reserved for track days. Stupid fast and handles great, doesn't even have a passenger seat. He offered the STi for $500 over invoice price.
Then got to drive a regular Evo IX at Miller Mitsubishi. This thing had 4 miles on the motor, so I didn't push it at all, but the new MIVEC engine seems to reduce a lot of the turbo lag the previous Evo had so it builds boost really quickly at low rpms. Steering was yet again not as impressive as the Z's, but felt a bit better and quicker than the STi. That salesperson sucked so I only got to drive it around the block, so I can't pass much judgement. They wanted $2000 over MSRP for the Evo MR (so that's around $38,000) and around MSRP for the regular and RS. But the Thousand Oaks Mitsu dealer offered any Evo for $500 over invoice price without any bargaining on our part. n00b.
It's clear that if we had sunny skies the entire year and nice smooth twisty roads something like a 350Z is the car to get. You might get from point A to point B faster in an STi, but just the sheer driving pleasure of driving the Z is worth it. But we have snow, potholes, and no place to garage a car for the entire winter.
Afterwards we went to Thousand Oaks Auto Mall and got to drive an STi 9. After driving the Z it was a big disappointment. Because it was a new car (230 miles on the motor) I didn't want to rev it really hard (but made it up to 5k rpm after I was told that it's the official demo car), so it's unfair to compare it's low-end acceleration to the Z. But the lack of any feedback from the steering wheel was a big turn off. Had a scary corner where I got a bit too close to the curb, but I returned the car without a scratch. The salesman knew my brother from a few Subaru meets he had attended; he has a modified and lowered forester that's reserved for track days. Stupid fast and handles great, doesn't even have a passenger seat. He offered the STi for $500 over invoice price.
Then got to drive a regular Evo IX at Miller Mitsubishi. This thing had 4 miles on the motor, so I didn't push it at all, but the new MIVEC engine seems to reduce a lot of the turbo lag the previous Evo had so it builds boost really quickly at low rpms. Steering was yet again not as impressive as the Z's, but felt a bit better and quicker than the STi. That salesperson sucked so I only got to drive it around the block, so I can't pass much judgement. They wanted $2000 over MSRP for the Evo MR (so that's around $38,000) and around MSRP for the regular and RS. But the Thousand Oaks Mitsu dealer offered any Evo for $500 over invoice price without any bargaining on our part. n00b.
It's clear that if we had sunny skies the entire year and nice smooth twisty roads something like a 350Z is the car to get. You might get from point A to point B faster in an STi, but just the sheer driving pleasure of driving the Z is worth it. But we have snow, potholes, and no place to garage a car for the entire winter.
But the 350Z definitely is a nicer car to drive, and with more skill might be faster around a track.
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Im in the same situation right now. Im thinking of getting rid of the Evo for either a 350z or a G35 but i dont know what i wana do. Ive been thinking about this for sometime now and im really getting towards getting a G35
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Originally Posted by Chris@nolimitmotors
I sold my 04 evo to buy a 06 6speed g35 coupe. I know its not a 350z but its the same car just nicer. I hated it and thats why i bought another evo.
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Ok with the debate going.. back to the original question.. Should you get a 350z? I don't know your reasoning at all, so I'll offer my thoughts.
I had a 350z touring model 6 speed. It was a very comfortable sports car with good pick up, instant response at that.. and good top end (for stock). The mileage wasn't half bad either.. I got between 21 and 27 all the time. The shifter had a good feel and the seats were nice.
Traction becomes scarce on bad roads under throttle, and bad weather can be challenging. The nature of the car is plenty of understeer without using the throttle to steer you. And it really does feel heavy compared to the Evo(mostly felt in the nose). Funny that they weigh about the same.
The brakes found on every model except the track model brembos are inadequate at best. So I'd go for the track model if you really want a z.
I had a 350z touring model 6 speed. It was a very comfortable sports car with good pick up, instant response at that.. and good top end (for stock). The mileage wasn't half bad either.. I got between 21 and 27 all the time. The shifter had a good feel and the seats were nice.
Traction becomes scarce on bad roads under throttle, and bad weather can be challenging. The nature of the car is plenty of understeer without using the throttle to steer you. And it really does feel heavy compared to the Evo(mostly felt in the nose). Funny that they weigh about the same.
The brakes found on every model except the track model brembos are inadequate at best. So I'd go for the track model if you really want a z.
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Originally Posted by 350streetracer
You should've bought the Z. The G is about 500 lbs heavier.