He's right and if your going to be adding performance upgrades on then that is even more of an issue.

Ask the pro's AMS, Buschur, Shep etc. If you don't beleive us.

I was going to pick up a MR for daily driver and do some light mods and everyone that I talked to that worked on my 05 said don't get the MR because of the tranny.

Unless your going to keep it stock and not track it.

GSR SE 5sp is the way to go.

 

Golovko, I was referring to the stupid feaux CF top on the shift knob that has the gear numbers on it. Of course I know that the body of the knob is aluminum, since I've been driving it for 2 years...

You are getting a little out of hand with this GSR vs RS thing. I personally own an MR and race it all the damn time. I have around 250 drag runs, 100 autocross runs, and about 10 track days. I have loved every bit of my MR until 4th gear shat itself. I wasn't shifting or doing anything except accelerating, and I don't have anywhere near the power to rip teeth off in 4th gear at 5000rpm. It's a flaw in the 6spd, and it is not so easy to just randomly fix, replace, or CONVERT a transmission. I have my 5spd now but am having difficulty with making sure I have every part needed for the conversion. Not even the speed/reverse sensor harness was the same, so I've had no reverse lights, speedo, or pedometer for a few weeks while waiting on Mitsu to send one.

Also, the pure track enthusiast would choose an MR, since it is the lightest, has the aluminum roof, and has almost no creature comforts. I prefer the MR and suggest it to people all the time, but the 6spd is definitely a liability in terms of road racing.

 

Monkey, the SE's don't cost the same as base GSRs.

 

Really? From what I have heard its 32,500

 

I have my SE sticker right in front of me:

MSRP - $31,399
SE package - $1,850
Destination - $625

Total - $33,874

 

lol...well you ALMOST had me going with the tranny issue until i saw 250 drag runs...lol...on track you never shift hard...smooth is the key not grabbing the shift knob and throwing it in gear. thats why **** breaks

and to those that say "buy a GSR, put coilovers on it, mod it etc etc etc" do you even know anything about setting up suspension? you'll make the car handle worse by throwing on an expensive set of coilovers without knowing anything about properly setting up a suspension, adjustments etc...its not just a matter of bolt on and away you go. Modding cars is dumb unless you have already reached the cars maxium ability on track and your skill level far exceeds that of the cars capabilities. And even then doing too much at once will put a serious dampner on your learning curve. There are hardly any good tuning shops that know what they're doing when it comes to suspension setups.

 

golovko...it seems to me you just can't accept that fact that the 6-speed is too weak for serious track use because you have the MR yourself. Also, nobody suggested putting coil overs on without getting proper set up so stop ranting

 

I love my GSR SSL. The sunroof is awesome. YMMV.

 

Heat seems to be the Issue that cooks the gears. I also believe that the gear is to thin and may not full engage while shifting so it may strip the teeth slightly until it breaks. WRX's have this issue far more worse the the MR.

May be a stupid question but are there any updates on the 2006 MR tranny to counter this?

 

Ix

 

High_PSI, no updates, because it is only an issue for those of us that road race frequently. In fact, it just happened again this week to an MR owner who does fairly serious road racing. You can see the details in our long thread in the Motorsports section near the top that has topic referring to MR Track ******.

Golovko, you seem really spun up about this, but you don't need to be. I am an MR owner and lover (wow, that sounds weird), so you don't need to convince me of anything. The problem is you ignored what I really said and focused on the drag racing. What you failed to realize is that despite my 250 drag runs, I DID NOT DAMAGE THE TRANSMISSION. However, when not even shifting on the road course, I stripped all the teeth off 4th gear. Shep didn't see any damage related to my drag shifting, and the instance of failure had nothing to do with shifting. Yes, stuff usually does break when doing 250 drag runs with a lot of powershifting and hard launches, but the 6spd seems to hold up quite well to that type of abuse due to gears 1-3 being very beefy (beefier than the 5spd). It's 4-6 that are very weak and small, which is why we are seeing failures in MRs that are road raced. It is now pretty much viewed as an expected eventuality for anyone that road races their MR.

Monkey, that is the SE price, but that's much more than the price of a base GSR, which is around 29k or so. Only the SSL version is up around 32-33, so the SE is one of the more expensive versions.

 

A base gsr's msrp is over 30k. Also just because a transmission lets go while in gear does not at all mean it was not weakened from hard shifts drag racing. If you didn’t have those 250+ drag races on the car, I have a hard time believing the trans would have acted the same way at the same time.

Also, I can't help but wonder if MR transmissions are getting a bad rap for the wrong reasons. Could it be that MR drivers typically drive harder or in more strenuous situations (racing) and thus more people driving them report transmission problems. In other words, it would be like Z06s getting a bad rap for tire wear compared to regular corvettes. Or red cars: do cops target them more or do people with personalities which like flashy cars also tend to drive more aggressively? All's I’m saying is that correlation alone doesn’t prove causality. I’m still relatively new here and someone may easily say, no it has been proven that the six speed is weaker, I just thought I’d raise the point.

 

Warrtalon knows his **** people, lets face it.... yet some STILL attempt to contradict him.. wtf? i dont get it. He's an MR owner and has experienced the problem that some still refuse to accept to be true.

 

how much difference in weight???

I got the IX and upgraded to the MR wheels....I couldnt tell any difference in weight at all when comparing stock IX wheels to the bbs wheels when i was swapping them out, i picked each one up a few times and they felt 100% same weight to me

 

Your logic is sound, but I already qualified my claims with data from other sources. Start here for your edification:

Track ****** with MRs?

Then, reference one of my earlier posts where I said that the 2 foremost Evo/DSM trans builders both agree that the 6spd is a POS and not suited for circuit use. You would think that my 250 drag passes led to the failure, but the others in that thread above did no drag racing and had the same exact failure in the same circumstances on the road course...