High School Evo Owners?
That's a stupid comment. #1 when I was still living at home, the Evo wasn't even CLOSE to being sold here in the states. #2 I think it's dumb for a highschool KID to own an Evo because 90% of the time it's one of those KIDS that wreck them and kill someone or themselves. Hence why our insurance rates are through the roof. I'm perfectly entitled to my opinion. And my opinion is, Mom and Dad should've bought you, or made you buy a civic.
These threads always get crazy. As an 18 year old, I perfectly understand why I shouldn't have an Evo. Do I take care of it, yes. Do I wash it all the time, yes. Do I drive recklessly in traffic, no. If a blown mustang pulls up next to me on the highway am I gunna race it, yes. I try not to do anything to put anyone else in danger and I understand what a 400hp Evo is. I agree that I don't make the right choice all the time. I did not pay for my entire car, but that doesn't mean that I don't respect it. -Slops 07
These threads always get crazy. As an 18 year old, I perfectly understand why I shouldn't have an Evo. Do I take care of it, yes. Do I wash it all the time, yes. Do I drive recklessly in traffic, no. If a blown mustang pulls up next to me on the highway am I gunna race it, yes. I try not to do anything to put anyone else in danger and I understand what a 400hp Evo is. I agree that I don't make the right choice all the time. I did not pay for my entire car, but that doesn't mean that I don't respect it. -Slops 07
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In high school I was the proud owner of a basic Honda Civic, the lowest and least expensive model, so basic it didn't even come with a radio. I got it used with 35K on it and I was damn happy to have _any_ car!
There was a kid in my high school who was promised a Lotus Esprit if he just graduated High School. Needless to say, he was hated by many.
By the way, I'm not comparing this to high school evo-owners now.
There was a kid in my high school who was promised a Lotus Esprit if he just graduated High School. Needless to say, he was hated by many.
By the way, I'm not comparing this to high school evo-owners now.
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These threads always get crazy. As an 18 year old, I perfectly understand why I shouldn't have an Evo. Do I take care of it, yes. Do I wash it all the time, yes. Do I drive recklessly in traffic, no. If a blown mustang pulls up next to me on the highway am I gunna race it, yes. I try not to do anything to put anyone else in danger and I understand what a 400hp Evo is. I agree that I don't make the right choice all the time. I did not pay for my entire car, but that doesn't mean that I don't respect it. -Slops 07
Last I checked racing a car on the highway is wreckless.
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Assasin's pretty much got it.
High schoolers --- listen up . . . . this is for you.
Don't knock older drivers for being concerned for your lives and your safety. Age, most of the time, equals experience. Older drivers have already made the testosterone-charged mistakes of youth --- when they were Y0UNG. They lived through those harrowing events and accidents because they were driving idiotically in relatively underpowered vehicles / ones that don't inflate the driver's confidence level beyond an econo-car level of proficiency. Some even had the high hp cars of the past --- and will honestly say "that thing almost got me killed".
An Evo is not a good car for beginning drivers to learn on --- period. It comes with an ego the size of Texas, but no prerequisite for maturity, *****, or responsibility. It coaxes you to test it's limits, and rewards you with tickets. And yes, if you've had less than 5 years of driving unaccompanied, you're still considered a novice by most agencies. Also, honing your driving habits on other well-rounded (perhaps not race-proven) cars actually comes with many benefits; like a casual disregard for flashy graphics and lighting, respect for well-kept vehicles, well-timed traffic entry and exit skills (due to normal acceleration), and the dramatically lower probability of a race challenge (resulting in longer life --- for you).
If you're already driving an Evo and haven't even graduated high school yet, you're statistically more dangerous on the road than South Park senior citizens on crotch rockets (doubt that? Ask your insurance rep . . . ), and if you're a hot-head wannabe Paul Walker intent on racing your friends, then you're further responsible for most of our (and definitely your) insurance-related woes. These are also the guys that get our (and your) friends killed by racing and trying to impress people with your "skills".
Don't be that guy. Please. We'd actually enjoy a chance to get to know you before you decide to do something that might end you.
To sum up: This forum is full of survivors --- and we all learned from our mistakes. Please remember that.
High schoolers --- listen up . . . . this is for you.
Don't knock older drivers for being concerned for your lives and your safety. Age, most of the time, equals experience. Older drivers have already made the testosterone-charged mistakes of youth --- when they were Y0UNG. They lived through those harrowing events and accidents because they were driving idiotically in relatively underpowered vehicles / ones that don't inflate the driver's confidence level beyond an econo-car level of proficiency. Some even had the high hp cars of the past --- and will honestly say "that thing almost got me killed".
An Evo is not a good car for beginning drivers to learn on --- period. It comes with an ego the size of Texas, but no prerequisite for maturity, *****, or responsibility. It coaxes you to test it's limits, and rewards you with tickets. And yes, if you've had less than 5 years of driving unaccompanied, you're still considered a novice by most agencies. Also, honing your driving habits on other well-rounded (perhaps not race-proven) cars actually comes with many benefits; like a casual disregard for flashy graphics and lighting, respect for well-kept vehicles, well-timed traffic entry and exit skills (due to normal acceleration), and the dramatically lower probability of a race challenge (resulting in longer life --- for you).
If you're already driving an Evo and haven't even graduated high school yet, you're statistically more dangerous on the road than South Park senior citizens on crotch rockets (doubt that? Ask your insurance rep . . . ), and if you're a hot-head wannabe Paul Walker intent on racing your friends, then you're further responsible for most of our (and definitely your) insurance-related woes. These are also the guys that get our (and your) friends killed by racing and trying to impress people with your "skills".
Don't be that guy. Please. We'd actually enjoy a chance to get to know you before you decide to do something that might end you.
To sum up: This forum is full of survivors --- and we all learned from our mistakes. Please remember that.
Assasin's pretty much got it.
High schoolers --- listen up . . . . this is for you.
Don't knock older drivers for being concerned for your lives and your safety. Age, most of the time, equals experience. Older drivers have already made the testosterone-charged mistakes of youth --- when they were Y0UNG. They lived through those harrowing events and accidents because they were driving idiotically in relatively underpowered vehicles / ones that don't inflate the driver's confidence level beyond an econo-car level of proficiency. Some even had the high hp cars of the past --- and will honestly say "that thing almost got me killed".
An Evo is not a good car for beginning drivers to learn on --- period. It comes with an ego the size of Texas, but no prerequisite for maturity, *****, or responsibility. It coaxes you to test it's limits, and rewards you with tickets. And yes, if you've had less than 5 years of driving unaccompanied, you're still considered a novice by most agencies. Also, honing your driving habits on other well-rounded (perhaps not race-proven) cars actually comes with many benefits; like a casual disregard for flashy graphics and lighting, respect for well-kept vehicles, well-timed traffic entry and exit skills (due to normal acceleration), and the dramatically lower probability of a race challenge (resulting in longer life --- for you).
If you're already driving an Evo and haven't even graduated high school yet, you're statistically more dangerous on the road than South Park senior citizens on crotch rockets (doubt that? Ask your insurance rep . . . ), and if you're a hot-head wannabe Paul Walker intent on racing your friends, then you're further responsible for most of our (and definitely your) insurance-related woes. These are also the guys that get our (and your) friends killed by racing and trying to impress people with your "skills".
Don't be that guy. Please. We'd actually enjoy a chance to get to know you before you decide to do something that might end you.
To sum up: This forum is full of survivors --- and we all learned from our mistakes. Please remember that.
High schoolers --- listen up . . . . this is for you.
Don't knock older drivers for being concerned for your lives and your safety. Age, most of the time, equals experience. Older drivers have already made the testosterone-charged mistakes of youth --- when they were Y0UNG. They lived through those harrowing events and accidents because they were driving idiotically in relatively underpowered vehicles / ones that don't inflate the driver's confidence level beyond an econo-car level of proficiency. Some even had the high hp cars of the past --- and will honestly say "that thing almost got me killed".
An Evo is not a good car for beginning drivers to learn on --- period. It comes with an ego the size of Texas, but no prerequisite for maturity, *****, or responsibility. It coaxes you to test it's limits, and rewards you with tickets. And yes, if you've had less than 5 years of driving unaccompanied, you're still considered a novice by most agencies. Also, honing your driving habits on other well-rounded (perhaps not race-proven) cars actually comes with many benefits; like a casual disregard for flashy graphics and lighting, respect for well-kept vehicles, well-timed traffic entry and exit skills (due to normal acceleration), and the dramatically lower probability of a race challenge (resulting in longer life --- for you).
If you're already driving an Evo and haven't even graduated high school yet, you're statistically more dangerous on the road than South Park senior citizens on crotch rockets (doubt that? Ask your insurance rep . . . ), and if you're a hot-head wannabe Paul Walker intent on racing your friends, then you're further responsible for most of our (and definitely your) insurance-related woes. These are also the guys that get our (and your) friends killed by racing and trying to impress people with your "skills".
Don't be that guy. Please. We'd actually enjoy a chance to get to know you before you decide to do something that might end you.
To sum up: This forum is full of survivors --- and we all learned from our mistakes. Please remember that.
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Kreeker,
I agree that not every kid is a douche --- it's just that we've all been intoxicated with the speed-generating capability that will be at your disposal.
It's really hard to resist, so please do your best!
I agree that not every kid is a douche --- it's just that we've all been intoxicated with the speed-generating capability that will be at your disposal.
It's really hard to resist, so please do your best!
I can see this exploding. As I'm sure many people know I don't agree with young people (ie. sub 25) owning a car like an evo, in my opinion any parent who buys their child a car like this is wreckless and stupid. I went to a rich high school, quite a few of the kids were the offspring of lawyers, doctors, oil execs, basically people with more money then sense. Needless to say a lot drove BMWs, Lexuses, WRXs, decked out hondas, and other fast cars. In contrast my friends drove old trucks, corollas and things of that accord. If you compared driving styles you would be shocked. The farm kids and such drove like grannies because they knew if they damaged the car, they'd have hell to pay. The rich kids didn't care and drove like it, they raced, went triple the speed limit in school zones and other retarded things. Some crashed their cars, the lucky ones survived. All of these kids thought they were hot **** until they were looking at a wrecked car.
The problem isn't that kids can't be mature, it's that they're still kids. Everyone here has dealt with peer pressure as a teenager. You'd be lying if you said you don't/wouldn't drive spiritedly if your friends egg you on. There's nothing wrong with this persay, I still do it today and my dad even does it from time to time, but we both have a decent amount of driving experience (although it's never enough) to know when enough is enough. Nothing can make up for experience, even AWD.
Now I'm sure some young people will say "oh you just drive a lancer, you must be jealous". Now then, do I wish I had an evo? Sure, but I'm also glad my parents were smart enough to know that at 17 I wouldn't be responsible in a car like that and instead got me a lancer to learn the basics of driving and modding on so when I upgrade I don't get faced with a massive learning curve. Even in a slow car it's possible to get into situations that make you realize just how stupid or juvenile you are, in a fast car those moments just come harder.
Oh and as for saying "I deserve this car", that's BS and people know it. No one deserves an evo, especially if their greatest accomplishment is graduating high school. How many people graduated high school? If you cure cancer, you deserve a reward, if you graduate high school, you deserve a kick in the *** to go to college.
The problem isn't that kids can't be mature, it's that they're still kids. Everyone here has dealt with peer pressure as a teenager. You'd be lying if you said you don't/wouldn't drive spiritedly if your friends egg you on. There's nothing wrong with this persay, I still do it today and my dad even does it from time to time, but we both have a decent amount of driving experience (although it's never enough) to know when enough is enough. Nothing can make up for experience, even AWD.
Now I'm sure some young people will say "oh you just drive a lancer, you must be jealous". Now then, do I wish I had an evo? Sure, but I'm also glad my parents were smart enough to know that at 17 I wouldn't be responsible in a car like that and instead got me a lancer to learn the basics of driving and modding on so when I upgrade I don't get faced with a massive learning curve. Even in a slow car it's possible to get into situations that make you realize just how stupid or juvenile you are, in a fast car those moments just come harder.
Oh and as for saying "I deserve this car", that's BS and people know it. No one deserves an evo, especially if their greatest accomplishment is graduating high school. How many people graduated high school? If you cure cancer, you deserve a reward, if you graduate high school, you deserve a kick in the *** to go to college.
I have two boys, one is three years from getting his license..And no he isn't going to be driving the Evo or my Roadster.. I want my kids around to grow into adults..Giving the kid a loaded gun ( the Evo ) is flat irresposible...I wonder how many parents bought life insurance policies at the same time?... Hey, we all wrecked cars, I know how I was and how most every male worth his weight is when the testoerone kicks in...its tragic that a parent would risk the life of their kid like that... Sorry guys, I've been there an lived thru it..good luck.