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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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EMS vs. dyno/mail-in tunes

I was wondering if a dyno/mail-in tune is as good as say, a vishnu/buschur/ams tune?

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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eh ????
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Luckily this was in the newbie section. But the correct title should be "Are mail in tunes are good as they say?" A reflash is the same thing as a mail in tune. All the tuner does is reflash your ecu for your setup. Yes, the mail in tunes are decent and a good start.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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lol, sorry about that.

Are they any different from the actual EMS's? performance wise?

is a dyno tune better than a mail in tune?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by -adrenaline-
lol, sorry about that.

Are they any different from the actual EMS's? performance wise?

is a dyno tune better than a mail in tune?
Mail in flashes do just that, flash your system not change the way the EMS functions.

A Dyno tune is always better becuase the conditions of the car are taken into account to achieve maximum horsepower.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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so are e-mail tunes it just takes a little longer to get it dialed in.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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dont waste your time with an email flash. Go to a local tuner that knows what there doing and have them do it. Heres what happend to me, I got a flash from al and he ended up flashing a evo 8 program onto my evo 9. Then when i wanted to get reflashed he modified the program so only he could flash it again, or what i did was find a program online that gave me access to als flash. Then i had to flash a stock 9 map on my car to get the mivec back on the ecu. My car is now ready to be retuned today at beyond redline. All i got was an ok flash from al and then all it after that was give me headaches this whole weekend.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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how much does a shop usually charge for a dyno tune?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fitbikedominick
dont waste your time with an email flash. Go to a local tuner that knows what there doing and have them do it. Heres what happend to me, I got a flash from al and he ended up flashing a evo 8 program onto my evo 9. Then when i wanted to get reflashed he modified the program so only he could flash it again, or what i did was find a program online that gave me access to als flash. Then i had to flash a stock 9 map on my car to get the mivec back on the ecu. My car is now ready to be retuned today at beyond redline. All i got was an ok flash from al and then all it after that was give me headaches this whole weekend.
Dude, sorry that you had a bad experience with your e-flash.

OP, you can't go wrong with mellontuning.

Just do a search for him or go to the service review section.

There is plenty of info on him there.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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I would say that a custom tune, wether it is dyno or road tune is going to yield better performance than a mail-in tune.

If there is no dyno or good EVO tuner local to you, visit the ECUflash forum, gather all the tools needed to log the car and reflash your car, so that you can send the logs with the neccesary data and the ROM image to someone who can tune EVOs, or read through the forum, ask for advice and try to tune it yourself.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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is Al the guy from Mellon Tuning?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by -adrenaline-
is Al the guy from Mellon Tuning?
Nope

Al = Dynoflash

Mellon = Mellon Tuning
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Jestr = JestrTuning


Cant forget the Jestr
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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what is the average whp gain with a safe boost about 21psi ,catback,dp, and k&n filter?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
Mail in flashes do just that, flash your system not change the way the EMS functions.

A Dyno tune is always better becuase the conditions of the car are taken into account to achieve maximum horsepower.
I completely disagree, a dyno tune is great for... a dyno, a road tune is real world conditions, not a simulated situation.

my e-mail flash tunes start with a base map that's made to work with the customers mods, from there we send the logs/rom updates back and forth until the tune is perfected. It's exactly like if I were sitting in the car doing a road tune...the very same process.
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