A Little longer then I thought, but i wanted to clarify everything in one post, ive been mentally mapping out my questions all day lol

Ok, so I have done some researching regarding the questions im about to ask, but alot of the answers were addressing people who wanted to do high HP applications (builds,etc). I don't really wanna do that at this point. My car is a daily drive vehicle.

So i had some questions about the modifications im gonna be doing this summer and wanted some input.

So far I have I have a aftermarket clutch, catless TBE (no tune yet, i do have a Mellon tune planned once the weather warms up here, car is stored for winter to save some money) and I also bought a ETS LICP v.2 (not installed)

I am wondering a few things:

1. I was told if Im gonna increase the boost, i should get a upgraded fuel pump, I was also told that the Evo 9 fuel pump is better then the Evo 8 fuel pump. Can I keep my Evo 9 fuel pump. Im thinking to increasing it to 20 psi (unless u think i should go more, i thought 20psi is ok)

2. I was gonna get a Hallman MBC but the weather where i live fluctuates alot, its not like SoCal where the weather basically stays warm all year round. I was thinking EBC b/c it stays constant. Is that correct? also im thinking of probably the Greddy Profec B, i also saw the Gizzmo IBC Electronic Boost Controller on lancershop.com. Kinda want something basic but stable Keep in mind. i cant get something like AEM tru boost cause i have no where to mount it.

3. I was looking on Buschur Racing's site and they have
- o2 housing
- ported exhaust manifold
- ported TB
Can someone humor me and explain to me, what benefits will this do for me in the direction im going. What does each of these do for my car, how will i notice the difference and which one do u think is better then the other. i notice a tons of ppl do o2 housing!!

4. Finally, what mods would u do if u were in my spot. CURRENTLY I would like to stay away from Cams, Meth(any injection stuff), bigger turbo upgrade.

I was thinking of maybe next year maybe doing a turbo upgrade but well see whats in the cards. Im taking everyone's advice on this board and taking it one step at a time! Im not gonna rush into modding just b/c I dont wanna get sick of it and I wanna learn my car! Currently it feels slow so i bought the LICP and have already been talking to Mellon Tuning and told him once the weather warms up, its game on! I have the money set aside. Mostly summer is going towards Advan Wheels and coilovers.

Future Goals - i would like to Eventually reach 350-400 HP. Anything higher might be just a little ridiculous.

I appreciate the advice on what steps i can do to get to my goal!!

 

1. The stock fuel pump can handle the 20psi easily. im at 25 psi on the stock pump and still have more room to go. but it's always better and safer to upgrade to a walbro fuel pump whihc im doing soon anyways. its a very cheap upgrade that helps in the longrun. (99 dolllars shipped)

2. The hallman boost controller is very good at staying constant ,,,sometimes even better than some electronic boost controllers it'll do fine in any weather. i can attest to that myself had the hallman through all sorts of weather...in oklahoma...where weather changes daily.

3. All those upgrades will be very noticible on your vehicle espeically with a tuhe or upgraded turbo. All are all worth it so i dont really put them in any order...whihc reminds me to bring up another point, why do you mean when you say high horsepower cars and daily driver? cause you can have a high horsepower daily driver....lots of people are daily driving 500hp evos which i consider high horsepower, you just need the quality parts and a good tune plus proper maitnence.

4. ruling out all those mods which you just stated which are basically some of the best bank for the buck mods...then uhh the basics i guess, intake, exhaust, boost controller, tune. thats a good way to feel the increase in power.

your horsepower goals are good but always remember that sooner or later..unless your pushing almost uncontrolable hp , everyone gets trired of thier power haha

 

I would hold off on the o2 housing untill you do the turbo. It's a bear of a job and will be much easier to do with the turbo off. At least if I had known better that's what I would have done. G/L with the decisions

 

If your thinking about getting an EBC, check out the HKS EVC. I hear its one hell of a controller!

 

Thanks for the replies guys!

I basically mean people who probably daily drive but big focus is to use there vehicle on the track.

 

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I would do the ported bits, it reduces restrictions/heat and will get you more power.

ported intake, throttle body, exhaust mani, stainless steel 02 housing, fmic/piping, catless tbe... all compliment each other.

boost with an ebc will fluctuate some too... I'll see 1-2psi difference with the greddy profec b spec II between a 75* day and 30* day, if it poses a problem I'll back it down a couple clicks to bring it back down to my intended target.

I would go ahead and do the fuel pump, it's cheap and easy to swap out and ensures adequate fuel pressure at all times. True the IX is better than the VIII pump but it's not that great.

I'm not a big fan of meth, prefer to do it on pump gas personally so I'm with you there, but a good set of cams would make a major difference and get you all over the 350-400awhp goal

 

Any method of boost control without a closed loop psi based target will fluctuate with temps. This means all MBCs and most EBCs will fluctuate with temps. If you want constant boost control, you need a high dollar closed loop EBC or ECU controlled boost.

About the fuel pump ... I'm maxing out the IX pump @ 20.5 psi at redline. I mean MAX too ... ~104%. So yes, it's worth upgrading.

It sounds like you're on the right track for a good DD build.

 

Get a 150 shot of nitrous and call it a day

 

Thank u Okay so i think im gonna get the fuel pump lol!! What are some examples of a "high dollar closed loop EBC"

Ya ive been told Cams on a Evo 9 give amazing results!! Problem is... here in Canada, we dont have alot of ppl w/ EVO's, sooooo that said, i dont trust alot of mechanics to install the cams! I heard its not a ez job! I also wanna find ones that dont make the idle sound all funky!!

Hey Mellon, if i decide to increase the boost, can u increase it via the ECU? If so, would u want me to buy a better solenoid!?

 

Mellon will make the biggest difference in the money/hp ratio. I have been talking to him and plan on doing a tune as well. Hopefully he has made aware that your going to need a a/f ration gauge, logging software and a tantrix cable. I don't understand why you cannot mount a EBC? Why not on your steering wheel column and while your at it put your a/f ratio gauge there too as they are the two most important gauges. Good choices on the mods so far! You should get the perrin filter and intake piping kit check out the results in the air filter shootout test. I would also look into a ported coated exhaust manifold as it's relatively cheap and proven to make decent hp. Buschur or PPI should do the trick I cannot say which is better but have never heard bad things about either of them. You can DEFINTELY go higher then 20psi especailly if you have 93 octane. I'm running 22-23 on 91 octane with zero knock. If noise is not an issue with you at WOT throttle (assuming it's not because your running straight piping) look into a divorced 02 housing. I also think you should seriously consider a good cam especially since you have mivec. Kelfords and GSC have proven to make serious power and I would just step up and go ahead and get springs and retainers as well for added safety and additonal revs do headstuds during the cam install. I can't really help you with intake manifolds, throttle bodys, ect. I haven't really gone into researching the power gains issued with them and if the cost is worth it. Hope this helps a little.

 

to each his own but I think that "funky" idle remind you and others that this isn't your ordinary evo GSC S1 + springs/retainers should give you a nice bump in power without too radical of an idle.

Personally, I don't like tuning the stock ecu EBC remotely, it's just too tedious and time consuming, then if you need to make an adjustment due to a temp change you're stuck. I prefer a good MBC/EBC solution instead. I'll wrap the fuel/timing in around it.

 

wow thanks for reply... VERY HELPFUL!! I have the wideband, cable and software dont u worry... im basically ready for the logging but waiting for mother nature to simmer down w/ this snow fall and this ridiculous cold weather!!

haha awesome! I wanna do cams but im trying to find someone here that can do it! Ive been told the actual cam install isnt the hard part, its the timing belt part which is the tough one. I have found some people who have done alot of work on Talons and DSM's so i may goto them. Dunno... still sketchy!!

 

I have an EVC and it is awesome. I would definitely recommend it.