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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Springs and retainers HELP!

i have Kelfords 272's and Headstuds, I was told that u need to get ur head redone to put them in is that true?

I thought you didnt need to rebuild the head? Am i wrong
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 5LEEPERISAH23I
i have Kelfords 272's and Headstuds, I was told that u need to get ur head redone to put them in is that true?

I thought you didnt need to rebuild the head? Am i wrong
Wow who told you that crap? What do you mean head redone? The only thing I had done was I upgraded my valve springs......I also had the head inspected and all the valve stems and guides only cause I had 50k on the car. But for Kelfords 272's or stage 2 style cams all you need is springs and or retainers
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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Wow who told you that crap? What do you mean head redone? The only thing I had done was I upgraded my valve springs......I also had the head inspected and all the valve stems and guides only cause I had 50k on the car. But for Kelfords 272's or stage 2 style cams all you need is springs and or retainers
A person at the I went to. He said he could just put them in. He said I would have to leave overnight for the head to get redone or somthing so I didn't put them in
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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You are correct the head does not a rebuild unless there is a serious problem
with the head. Most camshaft companies at the very least will highly recommend
a higher rate spring replacement is needed, but also the retainers should be replaced
as well depending on how much valve lift the cam provides.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoolin' By U
You are correct the head does not a rebuild unless there is a serious problem
with the head. Most camshaft companies at the very least will highly recommend
a higher rate spring replacement is needed, but also the retainers should be replaced
as well depending on how much valve lift the cam provides.
im running just Headstuds n 272 cams... i run fine as of now.. am i ok?
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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anyone?
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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With the Kelfords I would personally get some springs and retainers also as they are pretty aggressive for 272s imo

Heath
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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with the Kelfords, go with the Supertech Dual Valve Springs and Titanium Retainers. holds up great
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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you don't need to get the head redone, but the head does have to come apart to put springs in it and off to put the stud and gasket in it. Your kinda already half way there. If you find out how much labor they charge for putting springs and seals in and see if it compares to getting the head rebuilt. We pick up 30cfm from out rebuilds, but certainly not needed. But you need springs!

here is the package we offer for you to compare and see if it's worth it to you

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ve...-shipping.html
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Not sure what he meant by saying that you had to get your head done.

However, installing the springs & or retainers (do both while your at it) is not a simple 1 or 2 hour job. Its rather difficult so leaving it at the shop overnight is not unusual to say the least.

I would clarify exactly what he meant by his statement & make sure they know what they are doing. Have they installed them before in an Evo, etc.

Good luck!
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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i know this is a dumb question but by leaving the stock springs n retainers in what am i at risk hurting?
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Most shops do not either have the tools to install springs and retainers with the head ON THE CAR or do not know how or want to take the risk of doing it with the head on. There are evom vendors that charge $800 for springs and retainers install.

TTP has the proper tools to do the job with the head ON THE CAR. We charge $275, its fairly time consuming and dual springs and retainers require valve seals to be replaced also.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Most shops do not either have the tools to install springs and retainers with the head ON THE CAR or do not know how or want to take the risk of doing it with the head on. There are evom vendors that charge $800 for springs and retainers install.

TTP has the proper tools to do the job with the head ON THE CAR. We charge $275, its fairly time consuming and dual springs and retainers require valve seals to be replaced also.
+1 that is why my head was removed and taken to a machine shop. I only did the springs cause the whole entire motor is being ripped out and getting a nice BR Stage 3 treatment
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