Originally Posted by Spartan619

Wow so tuning can give u better mpg results how interesting.

Originally Posted by skills

ralliart is the same motor, same transmission. different computer program for the tranny but it's the same thing and you can install s-sport (if you want to void the warranty). The motor is the same thing. Of course different important parts like FMIC, smaller turbo, and all that other stuff. But it's the same 4b11t. It's also the same awd drivetrain as the evo x just without AYC.

$15 pill +free tune and it makes the same power as a stock evo x.

Yes I am well aware that despite all the similarities it is NOT an evo and can't really become one! But someone looking for a hot hatch that is quick as ***** with slightly better mpg, it's great!

I'd say, if you were spending lots of time at the track, the evo would be better. But more time driving like a normal person, the ralliart. At least that was part of my decision making process. I drive a lot as well, the evo would have been too much gas and too rough of a ride for me. I opted for the RA because there is still lots of room to tune, and it was easier to live with as a DD. I usually get 300-320 miles on a tank, hilly highway driving, with 2-3 gallons left.

Originally Posted by Spartan619

Uses same mcpherson style suspension may not come the same as a gsr but they can be swapped, motors are different? i read its just detuned evo engine, and the trans is the same SST twin clutch at the MR/SE model but probablly detuned some way as well.

Originally Posted by Johnr352

Well, you've certainly done your reasearch. Are the weights the same? The corner weights too? Are the dampers and spring rates the same too? is the frame set up identically? i hadnt thought that it was. Does the gar have a computer program for the tranny? Really? Here I thought I was the computer program for the tranny.

Running the same brake calipers or block and internals and brakes does not the same car make.

But...you make a point as I'm only using the Evo X as a race car and can't speak to it in its stock form or as a DD. I guess, as you put it...I'm not a "normal person".

Originally Posted by bphx123

Why not keep your Honda for DD and buy a evo for weeked? Goes does get expensive especially if your on it all the time.

Originally Posted by Revo15

Just get the evo try it if you don't like it sell it..it's that simple although I highly doubt with all the fun you'll have you'd want to sell it.

A good tuner will make you and your car happy and gas friendly.

Originally Posted by Spartan619

Hey guys new to the group, thinking of leaving the Honda scene and trading in my EP3 for an EVOX MR!
I like the MR because i am in traffic 5x a week and don't want to deal with a clutch anymore but i still want some thing that will set me back in my seat and take to the track on my weekends.
Haven't been able to test drive one yet but i know I will love it.
Only thing that is kind of turning me off is the MPG: 17 city/22 highway!?
that's insane!
My civic is Highly Modified and uses 91 octane only and gets about 350 miles on about 11.5 gallons of fuel. How does that compare to the EVOX MR?
i do about 90% Highway driving and total almost 2000 miles a month. Do you think its going to hurt me more or maybe be more less the same?

I also took a look at a 2010 Lancer Ralliart sport hatch today and was impressed at the fact that it is just short of Brembo's, Recaro seats, and some HP to being dubbed an EVO am i right? But just because the price tag is smaller and less HP doesn't give this car the edge in MPG at all.

I've also seen the EVOX SE model have the SST auto trans mission but the closest one I've seen is about 350 miles from me in AZ.
I appreciate any advice you can give me an hope to join the forum and be an active member. THANKS! -ethan

Originally Posted by ugakirk

It doesn't have the same AWD as an Evo 9. That is a misconception.

Originally Posted by JinxsEvoXMR

I have an X MR and if i max out a tank (like 14 of the 14.5) i can go 300 miles on the tank. works out to about 21ish mpg. as far as the ralliart goes, i know a guy who got a ralliart (not the hatch but a RA nonetheless) and spent the difference in mods and it's quicker than my X with just an intake. guess that just brings it down to whether you want to do that portion yourself or start out with it. hope this helps!