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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:07 AM
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Bad Driving habit

Sometimes I like to drive pretty aggressively (fun windy roads or beating the left turn light coming off a freeway etc). I know how to rev match for these turns but I don't do it properly.

To my understanding im supposed to press clutch > shift to neutral > release clutch > rev gas > press clutch > engage lower gear > accelerate

Unfortunately i became impatient with all that movement and now ive gotten used to pressing clutch > engaging lowergear > revving gas right before the clutch catches.

So my question is, how terrible is this for my car/clutch as a whole? I'm so comfortable doing it now in any situation, it would be difficult to change. Trying to do the heel-toe thing felt too awkward for me, but if im doing serious damage I guess I should learn. Thoughts?
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/heelandtoe.html

You don't need to double clutch.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:00 AM
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o0o0o okay so according to that "blipping" the throttle with the clutch depressed isnt completely terrible. That was really my question i guess, I was always told I would burn my clutch doing that.

I just don't normally need to continually brake while downshifting, i'm sure if I came into a corner at 6000 rpm there would be a need for it, but not so much in daily driving.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitetrain158
o0o0o okay so according to that "blipping" the throttle with the clutch depressed isnt completely terrible. That was really my question i guess, I was always told I would burn my clutch doing that.

I just don't normally need to continually brake while downshifting, i'm sure if I came into a corner at 6000 rpm there would be a need for it, but not so much in daily driving.
If you watch videos on how people do heel and toe shifting for downshifting/braking scenarios coming into turns and downshifting rev-matching, no one is double clutching. When the clutch is depressed, the drivetrain is essentially disconnected from the motor, you shouldn't coast excessively with the clutch depressed because that puts unnecessary wear on other parts, but you can't hurt anything by taking an extra half second with the clutch in to rev match. In fact you can do more damage by just raming the car into a lower gear, dropping the clutch, putting a jolt on the drivetrain, and letting the RPMs shoot sky high.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitetrain158
o0o0o okay so according to that "blipping" the throttle with the clutch depressed isnt completely terrible. That was really my question i guess, I was always told I would burn my clutch doing that.

I just don't normally need to continually brake while downshifting, i'm sure if I came into a corner at 6000 rpm there would be a need for it, but not so much in daily driving.
By who?

Blip the gas while the clutch is in. It will cause no damage. You know you did it right when your downshifts feel silky smooth.
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